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Discussion in 'GBAtemp & Scene News' started by Chary, Nov 9, 2017.
how with no games?
They have no need to go down the portable route with PS4 and BC obviously makes no difference in sales as the PS4 has sold a boatload from day one. Most powerful or not the Xbox is dead in the water with almost no games worth caring about as a selling point for it. Has the new xbox even made a dent in the PS4's sales figures? Will all the millions of people already invested in a PS4 jump over to a platform with almost nothing going for it for the sake of power? I don't think so. I still don't understand why MS invested so much in making a hugely powerful console but have seemingly invested nothing and are not even attempting to secure some exclusivity for it.
That's a good point actually. Was there ever any reason they were so expensive?
Sorry I meant greed.
Well, House is about to step down as the chair of SIE by the end of the year, which might suggest he is alone with at least some of his opinions... Virtually we can get an announcement of a "New PlayStation Sweeta XL" handheld even on Jan 1st 2018.
I seriously doubt that anybody's screaming "MORE SONY HANDHELDS!!!", so I think we're good.
The Vita is not dead only thanks to the homebrew community. I think $ony failed the Vita due to the stupid memory stick's prices, they are ridiculously expensive.
Nonsense... I think there is a market for it.. fail. just look at the 3ds
the original psp was never a run away success and being hacked did scare off 3rd party AAA support to the vita. the vita never got a metal gear solid, or a gran turisom or a grand theft auto, ya know system sellers. sony was more commited to the psp and it being the sony branded gamboy for teens and young adults vs the nds catering to children. the vita was a here this is what we wish psp was but we are not commited into hyping up something we dont even want to develope games for. . ... that being said id still like to see a pspgo esque psvita 3.0 with a cradle dock pstv and ds4/ds3 support. make the vita like the switch. i still love my pspgo and its cradle and component cable and a sixaxis controller since psp games dont have rumble anyways
Top smartphone specs? It had a 444MHz Cortex A9. The Galaxy S2 (April 2011) has a 1.2GHz Cortex A9. Granted, the Vita's a quad-core whereas the S2 is a dual-core, but still, my point stands.
I will carry you wherever I go, dear Vita. You and Henkaku are the shit.
Now can we officially confirm that psdead is dead??
PSP wasn't bad tbh
Between expensive proprietary hardware and awful ergonomics. It shouldn't be a surprise that the Vita flopped. The first gen had that shitty cable that broke due to how flimsy it was. The slim gave us Micro USB cables, but didn't change the memory options. Even the 8GB card that came with the first slim models was filled so quickly.
The PSP was a fun system. However it was so damn uncomfortable to hold. Couldn't ever get a proper grip on the system, so extended playtime would kill my wrists. The Vita actually made it worse. Between smaller buttons and awkward stick placement, you practically HAD to buy a decent grip. The DS line and 3DS line aren't much better, but I never had a problem with long sessions
It was obviously the more powerful of the two handhelds, and it has a nice library to look at. However, half of the titles that are worth a damn came after the general consensus that the system sucked.
Well the market has definitely changed. Many people who relied on the DS/3DS/PSP/VITA for portable gaming were casual gamers (just check the ads selling ds, 3ds, psp and vita consoles and see the titles coming with them) that could not care less today, as many 'game' on mobile phones and tablets.
And i am pretty sure that if the switch was released as a device with a portable and home consoles alternative (so the home would be just a box, no screen no nothing, much like other consoles), a big percentage would buy that instead of the portable one. I would for sure.
I wouldn't say there's "no potential in the handheld market", but I don't think Sony has anything new to offer at this point that would make a new handheld successful. Between the 3DS, Switch, smartphones, and Vita, there is just no room left in the market. As far as sheer power and mechanics go, the Vita is still close to perfect for a handheld in present time. No major technological advances have been made that would dramatically change the experience with a new system, so it would be a hard sell to get people who own a Vita to upgrade to a new handheld. Smartphones and the 3DS basically beat out the Vita, and nothing has changed since then that would give them any more success. It would take a dramatic innovative breakthrough for Sony to have a successful new handheld, so I think it is wise of them to hold off right now.
They just needed to support it more. They put all that money into to just. . . .pretend like it don't exist. The vita is still a great machine and there are developers/publishers that are still willing to support it at least. Releases may have slowed down, but there are still games being released for it.
Not surprising. They made two solid systems (especially the Vita) and completely mishandled both of those. If Sony released a third handheld, they'd likely only screw it up again because they're almost as incompetent as Nintendo.
I mean, hell, the Vita just copied the PSP:
Expensive, proprietary memory cards - check
Lack of first-part support - check
Next to no new features added to the OS - check (and also, a lot of homebrew and plugins have been adding simple features which Sony refused to add, but they just patch up the system instead of adding those much-desired features because "muh piracy" - oh the irony)
Too much stability - no check because there can never be enough stability
Poor PS3/PS4 compatibility - fucking check check check because even when it worked, it didn't often work well
High price - check
Lack of support immediately following release - check
Abandoning/half-assing supposedly big features (I'm looking at you, Near) - check
You get the idea.
And this is coming from someone who loves handhelds in general and owns two Vitas.
i think that sony should sell the rights to the vita to valve and have them manufacture the next one for obvious reasons
Why, so that they can change the analogue sticks to touch-sensitive craters and release zero games for it?
You know, on second thought, that fits Sony quite well.