Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft all agree to require a disclosure of lootbox odds for future games

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  1. Chrisssj2

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    Sorry but how do we know even if the odds displayed are true... any critical thinking going on here?
     
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  2. Jiehfeng

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    If you mean technically how, the lootbox is coded by % chance I assume, so just publish that info. Rocket league did it last year iirc.

    If you mean faking it, doing so would be risky and I don't think a company would take such a risk, but then EA on the other hand...
     
  3. Chrisssj2

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    Well lets say company claims 5% drop rate but in actuallity it is 3% or whatever.
    Or whatever differeince. Humongous or not. How would we be able to tell the diffrence.. RNG = RNG.
     
  4. DANTENDO

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    As soon as you think Yr getting mugged then stop:D
     
  5. NoNAND

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    Lootboxes
    thankfully I play single plaer offline game, so they haven't affected Mt gaming experience that much.
    But I'd wish they never existed still.
     
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  6. Jiehfeng

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    Good point. The only accurate way to tell is to look at the coding, but I have no idea how these things are coded, so I assume you just write a line saying "x should be 5/100".

    For example Zelda Botw and the amiibo drop rates were datamined, so you know it's accurate. So I assume datamining is the only way for a gamer to truly know.
     
  7. HRudyPlayZ

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    Microtransactions as a all should just be banned everywhere...

    They just ruin your experience by putting big buttons to buy shit...

    Also, my moral recommend me to pirate every game with microtransactions, i would recommend everyone to do the same, as those companies don't deserve our money with shit like this...
     
  8. Chrisssj2

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    They could even implement fake code. to make you think the drop rates are something, that they are not. Thin foil hat.
     
  9. Jiehfeng

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    At that point it's just scamming with extra steps. But keep your hat on haha.
     
  10. DANTENDO

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    Rest Yr brain and forget lootboxes exist
     
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  11. Chrisssj2

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    Yup. I did. I will never play a single mobile game again.
     
  12. Johnton

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    The F*** is a lootbox?
     
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  13. FAST6191

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    Can't lose if you don't play but I don't have any particular objection to this development. Fairly transparent "we'll self regulate before someone regulates us" behaviour but you expect such things.


    For stuff like Las Vegas then the code for the machines gets made available to the authorities. There are also ways to tell*, though that would involve either a journalist doing some actual research or someone like those which do https://towardsdatascience.com/tagged/gaming having go at things.

    *5% and 3% are both low percentage differences that a few tests will not tell. However probability still holds and you could estimate payout rates and what they should be. Various people do this for more general gambling websites and games.
     
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  14. Draxikor

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    I have a dream when those 3 companies forget about DLC, microtransactions etc. And return to the time when they make full games since day one and if they got ideas they couldnt insert in the same they make a sequel with those ideas.
     
  15. Enryx25

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    No Nintendo First Party has microtransations.
     
  16. Chrisssj2

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    Well "authorities" deepstate.. and if you believe in independent institutions and journalists...*Shruggs*
     
  17. DarkCoffe64

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    Lootboxes will need to have their odds avaiable to the public
    but doesn't mean them triple ay companies have to tell the truth
     
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    This isn't unexpected considering these three companies are not the ones pushing lootboxes into games. Still, I worry that this will be counter-productive in preventing lootboxes. The odds of winning a scratch-off lottery are also printed on all tickets, yet that doesn't stop people from buying them. This will just give lobbyists ammo to push back against further regulation since they already technically did something about it.
     
  19. codezer0

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    The ESA needs to be made to answer for the 2000(+) lives it endangered with such an incompetent storage of sensitive information.
     
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    Don't worry, they emailed me a generic apology letter that wasn't very sorry. So it's all okay now. :glare:

    (they even straight up lied saying the document was password protected when it wasn't but whatever i guess)

    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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