1. teamlocust

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    digital editions of consoles are the biggest con of gaming industry.
     
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    Those parking ticket you pay and display can be use by another if you don't make full use of it. For digital purchase I suppose if you want to share you can make one account per game purchase and share that with people without much concern. Many people can use it just not at the same time online. You can form a game club and don't even need to meet to exchange the disc. Until they start to limit the number of account that can be use on one machine.

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    Everything is going digital. Even money. There are places that no longer accept paper money strange as it may be a few years ago. Won't be long before not having a digital wallet makes one a weirdo. Many have predicted that this will be the last console generation with disc drive.
     
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    money/digital transactions are different than license based games....lol there is no comparison
     
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    Charging US$100 for a disc drive is a pretty big con
     
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    Not in this country, at least they print on the ticket that you can't transfer them and they will sue you if they have evidence.
     
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    But you still have ppl who don't use any subscribing services including me your trying to generalize a preference over the masses. If ppl truly never buy disks of anything then why are retail stores still selling them? My new PC has no disk drive so im forced to digital download my games. The choice to buy a disk copy isn't there for me to choose. Its the same as a console where before Sony decided to change their mind about the ps3/vita store if you bought all of your games digitally and you happen to delete them for storage space you were screwed b/c the store would be down meaning you could never download them again. This makes me even more skeptical about relying to any gaming store service. Movies aren't a big deal b/c you can get them anywhere even on streaming sites.
     
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    I don't know if my PS3 or Vita still works. It's a matter of time that it will stop working. There isn't much we can do about it no matter which form the game was bought in. I have Nintendo cartridge that no longer works and LCD that collapse when I power it up. Digital or cartridge it can't out live the HW. It's a observation not a preference. I have games that I bought from apple app store that I can no longer run because it is 32bit. Nothing about what I want but it is what it is. Would I like to be able to rent a blue ray movie disc from a neighborhood store? Maybe I do, but there is not such choice.

    I haven't bought any boxed PC game since a long time but the last one I bought already came with useless disc. For most people the disc for console is very close to useless except for DRM and PC already force you to go online and don't use disc based DRM. Maybe it was diablo 3. That would be almost ten years ago.
     
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    I can speak only for myself, but it doesn't suck whatsoever to be a PlayStation user.

    I wouldn't say that. My guess is that most people probably don't even care whatsoever. I have a disc PS5, but I only bought it for the 4K player. If they don't add Dolby Vision support for 4K Blu-rays sooner than later I'll actually sell it and get a digital only version because my only physical games are from PS2 and earlier & I'd rather use the extra $100 towards a more capable 4K Blu player.

    I question how long you've been a gamer, or how much of a gamer you are. Absolutely 100% far from the biggest con of the gaming industry. Far, far, FAR from it.


    This entire thread is filled with (for the most part) nothing but hypocritical, Sony hating, trash talk from Nintendo fan boys who want to bitch about this yet are silent about things like Nintendo charging $60 for old ass games. Are you all going to tell me that Nintendo and Xbox games are never priced higher in the eShop or Microsoft Store than what a physical copy would cost? Why all of the Sony hate for this when the other guys are every bit as guilty of what most people here are complaining about? Every game I have for PS3, PS4 and PS5 is digital and I'll keep saying this... the majority of them of them I purchased for LESS than what physical copy would have cost me. This topic is stupid and overblown. I hope the case fails miserably.
     
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    Hurrah! No more digital sales!

    But seriously, how is this any different than Nintendo operates or most other stores that distribute digitally? So what? You can buy a voucher that you can use instead of currency?!

    Also... this can be read as "Platform holder has the monopoly on it's own platform, some butthurt object"
     
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    wtf
     
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    Yes, because that's what usually happens when you buy in bulk. You speculate on what you can sell and then negotiate a discount (humble : 'ey AAA studio. How about I buy five thousand copies of your game for 15% of the sale price (so I can sell them for 10% off later) ?'). From what I understand, those other stores buy the actual games first. If they have to pay full price, there 'd be hardly demand for it in the first place (it's not like the other platforms want to make a loss).

    Higher cut for the developers is a different thing. And for which I can't buy say the same for the epic store situation : it's up to them to think whether they want to sell it on the ps5. I honestly don't see how the situation would improve with more middle men in between.
     
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    Because 4K Blu-ray drives are selling for significantly less elsewhere?
     
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    It's probably a $10 component.
     
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    Mark ups apply to practically everything you buy. Just don't buy anything. Ever.
     
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    It's a parody to "digital editions of consoles are the biggest con of gaming industry.". Value can be measured in many way. The markup a merchant put over their cost depends greatly on how much they can get away with. The markup Sony put on the disc version compared to the digital only version is significantly higher. Fact or Myth? Physical is cheaper than Digital. Fact or Myth?
    Sony makes more money when you buy digital. Fact or Myth?
    If I call the markup on disc version a "Sony tax" would it make you happier?
     
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    When a company wants to sell its own games and gets sued lmao
     
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    The thing is that other companies, like Amazon or Gamestop/EB Games can't re-sell game keys. (Or, as I prefer to call them, Download Codes.) That's why they're getting sued.
     
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    1) It depends on a persons idea of "significantly". Imo it is not that significant. Neither fact nor myth.
    2) 100% dependent on the physical vs digital price of any given game at any given time. Fact or "myth" cannot be determined without being specific at any given moment. I've personally paid less for digital games than what a physical copy would have cost, a very large number of times. Apples to oranges.
    3) Fact
    4) "IF" you said it? You did say it. Fact. But no, it doesn't have any emotional effect on me one way or another. Does it make you happier having actually said it? It was kinda a weird question. Shrug.
     
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    And why call it "Sony tax"? Isn't the slight markup to make up for the manufacturing cost to make a disc??
     
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    People often call the high markup apple charge for iPhone a "apple tax". You pay this tax for the public good apple do. Same here you pay "Sony tax" so they can create nice console for the "public good". Those who go for the higher end model often pay more "tax" for the public good. Same for those who buy games at full price. As long as they are able to effectively stratify customer (example having the disc drive) so those able and willing customer continue to pay the higher tax they can earn extra money by offering a lower margin system to make extra money.
     
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