Someone said all .tiks are useless now

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  1. idunnoilikends
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    idunnoilikends GBAtemp Fan

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    So does this mean we can make a installer that doesn't install .tiks?

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  2. jinxvorheeze

    jinxvorheeze GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    No, what I said was that .tiks are useless when attempting to redownload from the wii shop because it no longer checks them, so there's no point in making sure you have a "proper" ticket, it doesn't do anything more then an improper ticket does.
     
  3. harrybuttox

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    The Shop Channel doesn't check for them anymore??? I'm confused...
     
  4. nanika

    nanika 文鎮じゃダメ!まぁ、こんな文字小さしすぎてどうせ読めないっしょ。

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    The Shop Channel used to decide what you could or couldn't download by what .tik's your have.
    Now it doesn't check your .tik's anymore and checks what you've bought.
     
  5. harrybuttox

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    When was this updated?
     
  6. Hasney

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    It definatly checks both. I downloaded VF2 from the shop, packed it, then uninstalled the original using WAD unistaller, installed my packed WAD to test and now I can't re-d/l VF2 from the shop.
     
  7. IxthusTiger

    IxthusTiger Cruddy's Buddy

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    Dunno but its true. Also the Nintendo Channel states that any info you send regarding play history will be anonymous, so you can send in reccomendations for games you've played, even if they're Wiiware/VC games you installed yourself.
     
  8. IxthusTiger

    IxthusTiger Cruddy's Buddy

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    That's odd... is it still in your purchase history?
     
  9. harrybuttox

    harrybuttox GBAtemp Regular

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    I don't mean to sound paranoid...but thats not a good sign...
     
  10. teq

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    Obviously whatever you generated didn't match the original in some way.


    The Wii shop channel now keeps a database of everything you've actually downloaded. It's not enough to have the data locally, because their server has no record of it.

    I don't see why this is a big deal. Downloading them from the shop channel is pointless if you already have the WAD. So, drop the paranoia.

    /thread
     
  11. Hasney

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    Well yeah, it doesn't bother me. I know the WAD didn't match the original, but this thread is about how the Shop only checks your purchase history, which I am pointing out it's not the only thing it checks.

    And yeah, the titles show up in my account activity.
     
  12. jan777

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    isnt it much better?

    nintendo wont check tiks anymore?
     
  13. jinxvorheeze

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    Well.... the Wii Shop checks your purchase history through your Wii. And no, if the .tiks didn't match up then that doesn't mean Nintendo checked them and they saw they weren't the same so wont let you download. They checked your purchase history of your account and saw you never bought that game so you can't redownload it.

    The Wii still checks for the .tik to make sure it is signed. Without the .tik the Wii wouldn't run the VC game as it would assume it was
    1. corrupted files
    2. just radom unsigned code trying to be run
     
  14. Alec2DaBreen

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    I just tested re-downloading FFCC: MLAAK and it worked fine.

    1) I didn't buy it from the WiiShop.

    2) It does have a proper ticket.

    Saying that the WiiShop strictly checks purchase history is incorrect. I am seeing nothing changed from the WiiShop channel.
     
  15. retrospect

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    Alec2DaBreen, judging from your post just now, you know how to make proper tickets. Can you point me in the right direction? I'm struggling to find information on anything above Trucha signing.

    Cheers
     
  16. Alec2DaBreen

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    BlaZe's WAD Packer creates proper tickets. It hasn't failed me yet.
     
  17. jinxvorheeze

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    I use Blaze's WAD Packer, I don't redownload from the shop although I used to have the ability to. There have been MANY MANY reports of .tik files no longer allowing the ability for redownload, so they might have implemented it into Nintendo accounts and have flagged accounts with "suspicious" activity. I don't redownload games because it's a waste of time. Games install much faster using the WAD installer anyways.
     
  18. retrospect

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    Alec2DaBreen, Thanks for the tip. But, how can Blaze's WAD Packer make a ticket for my Wii unless I tell it something about my Wii? Proper tickets need to be specific to an individual Wii. I am aware that Blaze's WAD packer makes better tickets, but can they really be indistinguishable from a real one?

    Thanks
     
  19. nanika

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    Some .wad packers ignore the .tik altogether, and make their own. Blaze's one integrates your .tik into the .wad it creates.

    However. Firmware tickets are identical across all Wiis, but I'm not so sure about VC and WiiWare games.