PS1/2 Some things you probably didn't know about the PS3

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1. Even with the Cell processor, the load times on most games are extremely high. in Motor Storm for example, just loading the car select screen takes up to 10 to 15 seconds.
2. The PS3 is heavy as hell, but when it's on, it's very quiet. With a little heat, you can hear a little "hummm" from the fan though, still, very quiet.
3. There is an option to play PS3 games using the PSP connected via Wi-Fi, there is a minor delay on the gameplay, but I'm guessing on Strategy Games it works like a charm. THe bad thing is, you are asked to have the latest FW on the PSP, so you have to wait for the CF every time Sony releases a new one.
4. Resistance and Untold Legends are two games that were available when the system was launched, to this day it's price is still 60USD.
5. You don't need to own PSX(One)/PS2 memory cards in order to play those games, you can use the PS3's Hard Drive to create internal Memory Cards. You need an adapter to read old save games from actual Memory Cards.
6. The PS3 can recognize a lot of USB devices, even more, it can recognize a lot of bluetooth devices like cell phone headsets and use them in voice chat in and off games.
7. The whole interface is the same XMB as the PSP one, but with a lot more stuff on each menu, and more categories.
8. While the 40G model can't play PSX/PS2 games the 80G model can only play 70% of the systems libraries. Some top notch games like MGS3 are affected.
9. Resistance: Fall of Man is indeed a system must-have.

I'll be adding some more on the future

Edit, here is some more facts:
10. Warhawk, the brilliant Incognito's online-only game is also available in the PS Store for 40USD.
11. The Half-Life games on the Orange Box (specially Ep2) run a lot worst in the PS3, because of frame rate issues. That I assume is bacause another company was in charge of its development.
12. Some of the recent Killzone2 screenshots were Photoshop'ed, a Guerrila QA Analyst confirmed the fact in the company's official forum.
13. Resistance and a copuple of other PS3 games already added support for the new Dualshock3 vibrating controller.
14. You can connect a printer to a PS3. I assume you can print your pictures, I'm also assuming why would any one do that on a PS3.
15. At any given time, if you connect a keyboard and/or a mouse you can use them on the XMB.
16. The PS3 features a browser that is a lot like the one on the PSP. I don't know if it supports YouTube videos or other services, I'll update.
17. The XMB support themes, just like the PSP's.
18. At any given time, playing PSX or PS2 games, you can assign any PS3 controller to any port, you can even simulate there there is a Multitap adapter connected. (A lot of people, has some doubts about it though).
 

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So you really like the system huh? I don't know, it feels like it's just too early to buy one. Just like I did on PSP, I'll probably buy this in 1-2 years when there are lotsa games to play and it gets much cheaper.
 

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1. Even with the Cell processor, the load times on most games are extremely high. in Motor Storm for example, just loading the car select screen takes up to 10 to 15 seconds.
This is due to the reading speeds of the Blu-Ray drive. It has to transfer tons of data for all the shiny graphics, and processing power doesn't play a role there.

I'm glad you like the PS3, but overall, I think the PS3 will be a more worthwhile purchase in another year or so. Still too few (good) games, the developers are still getting settled in, and the online services are still under construction.
 

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Nice info VVoltz, but I already knew all about it. I'm fairly well-read in the gaming department.
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Funny thing about PS3 pricing is that it is just such an expensive beast to manufacture. My understanding is Sony were already making a loss on each console at launch price. Then there has been that price-drop... How low can they afford to go whilst keeping things economically feasible? Even taking into account their intentions with underpricing the console (ie, build customer base and recover costs from later software/blu-ray sales) how far will they really go?
 

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Funny thing about PS3 pricing is that it is just such an expensive beast to manufacture. My understanding is Sony were already making a loss on each console at launch price. Then there has been that price-drop... How low can they afford to go whilst keeping things economically feasible? Even taking into account their intentions with underpricing the console (ie, build customer base and recover costs from later software/blu-ray sales) how far will they really go?


They can go really really far. Sony is a big company with big profits..even though they may be losing some money on the PS3 they are still making money overall.

They also make money on games
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Funny thing about PS3 pricing is that it is just such an expensive beast to manufacture. My understanding is Sony were already making a loss on each console at launch price. Then there has been that price-drop... How low can they afford to go whilst keeping things economically feasible? Even taking into account their intentions with underpricing the console (ie, build customer base and recover costs from later software/blu-ray sales) how far will they really go?
I think they would be going for market share with this tactic.
 

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Yeah. You only have to sell a console once to someone and they will buy games for the rest of the consoles life.

Taking a hit on hardware is not such a bad thing if you've got good games. (xbox)

Btw: Congrats on the PS3 VVoltz. I'm sure you'll have good times with it
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I plan to pick one up in the next year or so.
 

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8. While the 40G model can't play PSX/PS2 games the 80G model can only play 70% of the systems libraries. Some top notch games like MGS3 are affected.


Not true, although it can't play PS2 games due the lack of hardware, PS1 games are emulated on all system models and thus still work.

The PS3 60gb emulates the PS2 via software not hardware (In europe anyway). The reason sony released the 40gb version was so they didn't need to update the software emulation.
 

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The PS3 60gb emulates the PS2 via software not hardware (In europe anyway). The reason sony released the 40gb version was so they didn't need to update the software emulation.

The 60GB Euro (and 80GB worldwide) does partial emulation, it has some hardware (not the EE I believe). They took out the remaining hardware to save money, they are still claiming they will be providing updates for the emulation software in the 60GB.

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1. Even with the Cell processor, the load times on most games are extremely high. in Motor Storm for example, just loading the car select screen takes up to 10 to 15 seconds. some games have a option to install the game to the hard drive reducing the loading times
2. The PS3 is heavy as hell, but when it's on, it's very quiet. With a little heat, you can hear a little "hummm" from the fan though. i can't hardly hear my ps3 fan at all, it's a very quiet machine, the only time the fan gets noisy is when you put folding on and i hardly do that.
3. There is an option to play PS3 games using the PSP connected via Wi-Fi, there is a minor delay on the gameplay, but I'm guessing on Strategy Games it works like a charm. THe bad thing is, you are asked to have the latest FW on the PSP, so you have to wait for the CF every time Sony releases a new one. i know of no ps3 games that let you to play ps3 games using the psp, the psp doesn't have enough buttons to play ps3 games anyway and i would rather use a normal controller
4. Resistance and Untold Legends are two games that were available when the system was launched, to this day it's price is still 60USD. nope, i can find both games for about £20 now or less, there are loads of listings on ebay that show this.
5. You don't need to own PSX(One)/PS2 memory cards in order to play those games, you can use the PS3's Hard Drive to create internal Memory Cards. You need an adapter to read old save games from actual Memory Cards. this is in the manual so everyone knows this
6. The PS3 can recognize a lot of USB devices, even more, it can recognize a lot of bluetooth devices like cell phone headsets and use them in voice chat in and off games. again this is in the manual
7. The whole interface is the same XMB as the PSP one, but with a lot more stuff on each menu, and more categories. nah, you don't say...
8. While the 40G model can't play PSX/PS2 games the 80G model can only play 70% of the systems libraries. Some top notch games like MGS3 are affected. if you want to play those games badly just play them on the ps2, the PAL ps3 is even worse as there is no EE chip so hardly any games run, i don't play ps2 games on my ps3 anyway
9. Resistance: Fall of Man is indeed a system must-have. not really

I'll be adding some more on the future
 

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1. Even with the Cell processor, the load times on most games are extremely high. in Motor Storm for example, just loading the car select screen takes up to 10 to 15 seconds. some games have a option to install the game to the hard drive reducing the loading times
2. The PS3 is heavy as hell, but when it's on, it's very quiet. With a little heat, you can hear a little "hummm" from the fan though. i can't hardly hear my ps3 fan at all, it's a very quiet machine, the only time the fan gets noisy is when you put folding on and i hardly do that.
3. There is an option to play PS3 games using the PSP connected via Wi-Fi, there is a minor delay on the gameplay, but I'm guessing on Strategy Games it works like a charm. THe bad thing is, you are asked to have the latest FW on the PSP, so you have to wait for the CF every time Sony releases a new one. i know of no ps3 games that let you to play ps3 games using the psp, the psp doesn't have enough buttons to play ps3 games anyway and i would rather use a normal controller
4. Resistance and Untold Legends are two games that were available when the system was launched, to this day it's price is still 60USD. nope, i can find both games for about £20 now or less, there are loads of listings on ebay that show this.
5. You don't need to own PSX(One)/PS2 memory cards in order to play those games, you can use the PS3's Hard Drive to create internal Memory Cards. You need an adapter to read old save games from actual Memory Cards. this is in the manual so everyone knows this
6. The PS3 can recognize a lot of USB devices, even more, it can recognize a lot of bluetooth devices like cell phone headsets and use them in voice chat in and off games. again this is in the manual
7. The whole interface is the same XMB as the PSP one, but with a lot more stuff on each menu, and more categories. nah, you don't say...
8. While the 40G model can't play PSX/PS2 games the 80G model can only play 70% of the systems libraries. Some top notch games like MGS3 are affected. if you want to play those games badly just play them on the ps2, the PAL ps3 is even worse as there is no EE chip so hardly any games run, i don't play ps2 games on my ps3 anyway
9. Resistance: Fall of Man is indeed a system must-have. not really

I'll be adding some more on the future



Thanks for the input, but the info was directed to people that doesn't own a PS3.

8. While the 40G model can't play PSX/PS2 games the 80G model can only play 70% of the systems libraries. Some top notch games like MGS3 are affected.

Not true, although it can't play PS2 games due the lack of hardware, PS1 games are emulated on all system models and thus still work.
My point refers that, if you buy either a PSX or PS2 game disc, there is no way you'll be able to play either on the 40G model.
The PSOne games available on PS Store are the 2% of the system's library (perhaps less).

I'll add some more info in the next few minutes.
 

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My point refers that, if you buy either a PSX or PS2 game disc, there is no way you'll be able to play either on the 40G model.
The PSOne games available on PS Store are the 2% of the system's library (perhaps less).

And what I'm saying is, that is wrong, the 40GB version still has the PS1 emulation and that it still supports PS1 game discs. The support for it is "firmware" based not hardware.
 

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My point refers that, if you buy either a PSX or PS2 game disc, there is no way you'll be able to play either on the 40G model.
The PSOne games available on PS Store are the 2% of the system's library (perhaps less).


And what I'm saying is, that is wrong, the 40GB version still has the PS1 emulation and that it still supports PS1 game discs. The support for it is "firmware" based not hardware.
Point taken, you are right. Sony took out PS2 support, not PS1. Thanks 4 the correction
 

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