So there's four levels of brick ?

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  1. nooby89
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    I juste want know. ;)
    • Soft-Brick : Recoverable with L + R +A + Up. (ex : freeze in downgrade)
    • Hard-Brick : Recoverable with arm9loaderhax or hardmod. (ex : sleep mode in 2.1.0 New 3DS)
    • Uncoverable brick : Uncoverable. (ex : OTPLess method bug, use wrong OTP, etc...)
    • MCU Brick : Really uncoverable. (ex : modify LED light of 3DS with invalid combinaison)

    That's all ? :unsure:
     
  2. Zero72463

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    There is probably more. Its kinda like cancer 4 stages ya know?
     
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    Do you have an idea about other type of brick ?
     
  4. Zero72463

    Zero72463 GBAtemp Maniac

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    A flash brick. Either you damaged your flash files physically or through software. When you damage the flash NOTHING works not even recovery. You could even say there are 4 stages of flash bricking and so on.

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    If I were you worry about the 4 you listed only. If you get 1 of them try to simplify it to whatever brick you actually got. It will save you the time of researching now.
     
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    I remember seeing that MCU brick could be recoverable if you had an nonscreen-init A9LH(something like that, i dont remember sure)
     
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    While the terms you've used are the ones used all over the forums, I think we should re-define them, to something like...
    • Soft-Brick - Bricked through software
      • Franken-firmware brick fixable with recovery mode
      • Non-recoverable blackscreen
      • Blue-screen brick (also non-recoverable)
    • Hard-Brick - Hardware is damaged
      • Error during hard mod
      • MCU brick
      • NAND flash burnout
     
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    And there is a special type with the error during the installation of arm9loaderhax ?
    (OTPless brick, use OTP from another 3DS on your 3DS)

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    And what is a frankenfirmware
     
  9. HugaTheFox

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    Sleep on 2.1 with a N3DS is non recoverable. OR DID I THINK?
     
  10. MadMageKefka

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    Would just like to mention that the MCU brick with invalid LED data only happens on firmwares 8.x and lower.
     
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    He should. That will mislead everyone that doesnt know about LED data
     
  12. Ominous66521

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    You can also hard brick with a soft brick if you don't have a Internet connection setup on the device
     
  13. HugaTheFox

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    They will allow you to set up one on the recovery. I think
     
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    Actually, if internet is enabled, recovery mode lets you set up a connection, and if you have the internet disabled on the device, you can turn it back on by removing the battery and reinserting it.
     
  15. GerbilSoft

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    Wrong OTP can be fixed with a hardmod if you have a NAND backup.

    OTPless brick can probably be fixed the same way, though I'm not positive.
     
  16. HugaTheFox

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    So it still recoverable then
     
  17. Ominous66521

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    Ah,i didn't know it let you do that.