Hacking So, is downgrading for Emunand/CFW/piracy worth it?

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I have a n3DS 10.3 and would like a free way to get free games.

Is downgrading to 9.2 a good idea? What are the brick risks?
If you separate NANDs can you still install AGB_FIRM games?
How easy is it to set up an emunand? Which is easiest to do?
How do I block any updates?
If I want to update to 10.3 how would I do so?
How do I go about setting up a 9.5 emunand?
Which CFW is best?

And overall, is it worth it for someone who just wants unsigned CIAs?
 

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is it worth it? This is kind of a loaded question. A few things to note:

Is downgrading to 9.2 a good idea? This is really up to you to determine, there is some risk of bricking, but it's relatively low if you're careful and follow everything through step by step.
What are the brick risks? The biggest one that comes to mind is doing a sysupdate with a faulty set of .cia's (either wrong region, or wrong console, although a corrupted file is still a possibility as well. I see that you're listed as US, but if for some reason you happen to have a Japanese console, there's also a specific (pretty well documented) cia file that you'll have to be careful NOT to update).
If you separate NANDs can you still install AGB_FIRM games? You can.
How easy is it to set up an emunand? Which is easiest to do? This depends on how you do it. Personally I think utilizing Gateway's tools are easiest, but there's guides to do it without as well...
How do I block any updates? This is somewhat of a loaded question. You actually DON'T want to block updates coming to your emunand, only your sysnand. The easiest way to do this is to set up your system in a manner that it boots directly to emunand. This can be done by utilizing homemenuhax.
If I want to update to 10.3 how would I do so? This is in system settings - do note that I did see that nintendo's update system might actually be down for maintenance at this point. If you have to wait, I'd double check that they haven't released a new system update...
How do I go about setting up a 9.5 emunand? There's a bunch of guides, I'll see if i can't dig up one and link it.... EDIT: here's one of many: http://gbatemp.net/threads/the-easy-complete-comprehensive-cfw-guide-for-everyone.408685/
Which CFW is best? This is personal preference. I've found Cake's to be easier to set up, but rxTools has some more tools that can be used...
 
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I have a n3DS 10.3 and would like a free way to get free games.

Is downgrading to 9.2 a good idea? What are the brick risks?
If you separate NANDs can you still install AGB_FIRM games?
How easy is it to set up an emunand? Which is easiest to do?
How do I block any updates?
If I want to update to 10.3 how would I do so?
How do I go about setting up a 9.5 emunand?
Which CFW is best?

And overall, is it worth it for someone who just wants unsigned CIAs?

From what you state then its certainly worth, "Free way to get free games" = CFW ,
no gateway, no sky, online play, unsigned cia, undub rom, model patched rom, languange translated rom, cheats, and many more for free.

I personally suggest rxTools running emunand 9.5 ( currently not >9.5 is not supported) + NTR CFW (optional)
 

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From what you state then its certainly worth, "Free way to get free games" = CFW ,
no gateway, no sky, online play, unsigned cia, undub rom, model patched rom, languange translated rom, cheats, and many more for free.

Is it possible to play 3ds Roms without a flashcard such as gateway after downgrading and adding CFW? I thought you could only use retro emulators without a flashcard?
 

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Is it possible to play 3ds Roms without a flashcard such as gateway after downgrading and adding CFW? I thought you could only use retro emulators without a flashcard?

Its not possible, you can only play .cia roms with CFW. .3DS roms are not supported, you'll need gateway for that.

I should have said .CIA instead of roms to make it clear. XD
 
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I don't know what to do. I System Transfered my O3DS (and lost all SD data, but I had a backup from september, some Mii Plaza data was lost unfortunately) and then downgraded it.

I'm wondering if I should downgrade my transfered 10.3 N3DS... I renamed sysUpdater to boot.3dsx and it seems to have loaded after some retries. Will I lose Mii Plaza data completely? Does 9.5+ emuNAND seem it'll be supported? Will I be stuck without eShop at 10.3?
 

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Oh okay, thanks. I got excited for a minute :) Before attempting to downgrade a new 3DS I should ask this: If I just want to play 3DS roms should I just buy a sky3ds+ and call it a day? What advantages would downgrading and using a gateway card offer? I would be interested in playing online, local, emulators,etc. if not too much of a struggle. Thanks again.
 

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Oh okay, thanks. I got excited for a minute :) Before attempting to downgrade a new 3DS I should ask this: If I just want to play 3DS roms should I just buy a sky3ds+ and call it a day? What advantages would downgrading and using a gateway card offer? I would be interested in playing online, local, emulators,etc. if not too much of a struggle. Thanks again.

CFW is free, games doesn't need headers...
 

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I don't know what to do. I System Transfered my O3DS (and lost all SD data, but I had a backup from september, some Mii Plaza data was lost unfortunately) and then downgraded it.

I'm wondering if I should downgrade my transfered 10.3 N3DS... I renamed sysUpdater to boot.3dsx and it seems to have loaded after some retries. Will I lose Mii Plaza data completely? Does 9.5+ emuNAND seem it'll be supported? Will I be stuck without eShop at 10.3?

I remember reading somewhere in this forum 9.5 emunand can access eShop after updating NVER and running eshop through HANS. Just search it.


Oh okay, thanks. I got excited for a minute :) Before attempting to downgrade a new 3DS I should ask this: If I just want to play 3DS roms should I just buy a sky3ds+ and call it a day? What advantages would downgrading and using a gateway card offer? I would be interested in playing online, local, emulators,etc. if not too much of a struggle. Thanks again.

If you just want to play .3DS roms on Latest firmware then sky3ds+ is the way to go. But you can't play .cia (eshop games) on sky3ds+. You'll need cfw or gateway for that.

Downgrading and using gateway card allows you to play all 3DS games ( .3DS (Cartridge game), .CIA(eshop game) , even modded roms).

If you're using sky3ds+ then you'll need private headers to play online.
 

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I remember reading somewhere in this forum 9.5 emunand can access eShop after updating NVER and running eshop through HANS. Just search it.




If you just want to play .3DS roms on Latest firmware then sky3ds+ is the way to go. But you can't play .cia (eshop games) on sky3ds+. You'll need cfw or gateway for that.

Downgrading and using gateway card allows you to play all 3DS games ( .3DS (Cartridge game), .CIA(eshop game) , even modded roms).

If you're using sky3ds+ then you'll need private headers to play online.
Ohhh I see. Yeah, I think it's best to just downgrade then and buy a gateway. Thank you a ton for clarifying.
 

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I remember reading somewhere in this forum 9.5 emunand can access eShop after updating NVER and running eshop through HANS. Just search it.

I've been reading this forum for a week, but with all those threads about N3DS bricking... I've done my best to prepare a clean SD. I don't know if I'll be able to return to my current config if something goes wrong (I have a NAND backup though, from before O3DS>N3DS transfer at 9.0.
 

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Downgraded and all, but Emunand9 (both launcher.dat and 3dsx) will not boot whatsoever. I can't backup or make an emunand without one!

Can I install an Emunand without a SD format?
 
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İf you format your sd card and 3ds (fresh system), you succesfuly downgrade ;)

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Downgraded and all, but Emunand9 (both launcher.dat and 3dsx) will not boot whatsoever. I can't backup or make an emunand without one!

Can I install an Emunand without a SD format?
Probably no because emunand installing to sd card.
 

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