1. GoldenSun3DS

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    I'm surprised nobody on GBATemp has posted about this.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smachteam/smach-z-the-first-handheld-steam-machine/description

    If this succeeds, we should have more handheld PCs on the market in the future, with more powerful capabilities.


    Now some (emphasis on some) quotes from the kickstarter page. There's a lot more info (like production timing, fund usage, board diagrams, etc) on the Kickstarter page for the Smach Z, so go check it out!

    Specs:

    AMD embedded G-Series SoC (formerly codenamed"Steppe Eagle") with "Jaguar"-based CPU and GCN-based Radeon graphics with 2 GB of dedicated GPU RAM.

    4 GB RAM memory (8 GB on PRO model)
    64 GB* internal memory (128 GB on PRO model)
    MicroSD Card Slot.
    5-inch Touch screen with 1080p** resolution.
    USB 3.0 type C
    Configurable tactile gamepads.
    HDMI video output connection.
    Wi-Fi connectivity.
    Bluetooth connectivity.
    4G mobile network connectivity (PRO model only).

    * Only if the Stretch Goal is achieved, otherwise: 32GB.

    **Only if the Stretch Goal is achieved, otherwise: 720p.

    Other:

    More than 1000 games out of the box. And you don't need to purchase them again, just load and play any game on your Steam Library compatible with Steam OS.

    More than 5 hours of battery life. Plus the option to add extra batteries to double the duration.

    Powerful enough to play any game on the market: Portal 2, DOTA, Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, SOMA, Civilization V, Metro: Last Light Redux, Borderlands 2,The Witcher 2,...

    Haptic controls: We're following the Steam Controller standard, it will surprise you! And if you are more old-school gamer, take a look to our Magic Z-Pads!



    What else? SMACH Z is a handheld PC plenty of other possibilities if you are interested in explore them. Some examples:

    • Play on the TV with the HDMI.
    • Connect another gamepad and play on Multiplayer!
    • Emulators: SMACH Z will be the best handheld device for emulation, and Retro Magic Z-Pads will bring your fingers back to the past. NES, SuperNintendo, Megadrive, Playstation 1 and 2, Nintendo64, GameCube or even Wii will be in your hands.
    • Multimedia Center: We plan to integrate KODI (check Stretch Goals), an open source software for playing videos, music, podcasts, and other digital media files.
    • Use SMACH Z as a gamepad controller for your PC.
    • Open Platform: We want to keep SMACH Z an open console, if you prefer to install other OS (Windows, Android,...) you are free to do whatever you want with it. We will give to the community all the info a codes needed to support other OS or develop additional features.
    • Attachable extra battery: It ads +5h of gameplay outdoor. You can add a second battery in the back of SMACH Z.
    • Accelerometer & Gyroscope: A cool way to control racing or airships games.


    Controls:
    The keys scheme will make use of two touch pads, a joystick, 4 action face buttons, 4 trigger buttons and 2 additional action buttons in the rear-back.

    Anyone will be able to create their own custom control schemes. The touch pads are also buttons with different areas of detection, so they can be used in many ways.

    But if you are "classic" gamer, and you prefer more traditional controls... take a look to the Magic Z-Pads just below!

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    They are adapters to configure the SMACH Z controls your way. Just plug in the Magic Z-Pad add-on on top of any of the touchpad and play!

    This simple yet magic solution will permit you to play with a real D-Pad on your SMACH Z, add a second stick or add more buttons. There are plenty of combinations!

    [​IMG]
    Retro Magic Z-Pads: Do you miss classic controllers when playing Emulators? Imagine to be able to have all of them in your pocket...

    [​IMG]
    * Magic Z-Pads are not included with the basic version of SMACH Z, take a look to the rewards for details.

    [​IMG]


    It can also stream from a PC:
    SMACH Z has been designed to be an autonomous handheld, but If you are using SZ in your house, you can also stream games from your PC via WIFI. This allows you to play games that aren't still supported by Steam OS, or use the power of your PC to play more demanding games: Just lay down on your couch or bed, with your PC with Steam open, and load any game you want directly from your SMACH Z.

    [​IMG]








    Backer rewards:
    AKA pricing

    Note: Some early bird prices may be sold out by the time you read this. Check the kickstarter page to see if it is still available.
    Rewards
    1. Pledge €5 or more


      About $5 USD
      22 backers

      - THANKZ YOU! -

      We will Thank You on our website for helping us to make it happen! Also we want to invite you to our forums where you get a place to talk about SMACH Z, send suggestions, and interact with the community.

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      Estimated delivery: Jan 2016

    2. Pledge €25 or more


      About $27 USD
      7 backers

      - SZ T-SHIRT -

      SMACH T-SHIRT + Thanks

      A limited edition t-shirt for the SMACH Z, only available via Kickstarter.

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    3. Pledge €199 or more


      About $216 USD
      100 backers All gone!

      - SPECIAL EARLY BIRD -

      SMACH Z AND CHARGER + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Join the revolution and be one of the first owners of the SMACH Z - Deep Black Ed. This an early bird, we can only offer a limited number of units at this price (Regular retail price will be 349 €)

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    4. Pledge €249 or more


      About $270 USD
      250 backers All gone!

      - SUPER EARLY BIRD -

      SMACH Z AND CHARGER + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Join the revolution and be one of the first owners of the SMACH Z - Deep Black Ed. This an early bird, we can only offer a limited number of units at this price (Regular retail price will be 349 €)

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    5. Pledge €279 or more


      About $303 USD
      4 backers Limited (496 left of 500)

      - EARLY BIRD -

      SMACH Z AND CHARGER + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Join the revolution and be one of the first owners of the SMACH Z - Deep Black Ed. This an early bird, we can only offer a limited number of units at this price (Regular retail price will be 349 €)

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    6. Pledge €299 or more


      About $325 USD
      0 backers

      - SZ PACK PREORDER PACK -

      SMACH Z AND CHARGER + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Join the revolution and be one of the first owners of the SMACH Z - Deep Black Ed.

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    7. Pledge €325 or more


      About $353 USD
      0 backers

      - COLOR SZ PREORDER PACK -

      SMACH Z (ANY COLOR) AND CHARGER + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Choose one from the 7 different colors of SMACH Z: Midnight Blue, Silver, Radioactive Green, Indigo, Pearl White, Fire Red or Deep Black.

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    8. Pledge €349 or more


      About $379 USD
      1 backer

      - MAGIC Z-PADS PACK -

      MAGIC Z-PADS + SMACH Z (any color) and charger + T-Shirt + Thanks

      SMACH Z with the basic pack of 3 Magic Z-Pads: DPad, SZ 4-buttons and Joystick.

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    9. Pledge €399 or more


      About $433 USD
      0 backers

      - LONG PLAY PACK -

      EXTRA SZ BATTERY + Magic Z-Pads + SMACH Z (any color) and charger + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Play the double, up to 10h (5h+5h) adding an external battery to your SMACH Z.

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    10. Pledge €449 or more


      About $487 USD
      123 backers Limited (377 left of 500)

      - EARLY BIRD PRO -

      SMACH Z PRO and charger + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      SMACH Z PRO has double RAM, double internal HD, front camera and 4G connectivity. This an early bird, we can only offer a limited number of units at this price (Regular retail price will be 599 €)

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    11. Pledge €499 or more


      About $542 USD
      0 backers

      - PRO'S PACK -

      SMACH Z PRO and charger + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      SMACH Z PRO has double RAM, double internal HD, front camera and 4G connectivity.

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    12. Pledge €549 or more


      About $596 USD
      9 backers

      - RETRO GAMER PACK - (Recommended!)

      RETRO MAGIC Z-PADS + SMACH Z PRO and charger + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Get the pack of 5 Retro Magic Z-Pads: NES buttons, Snes buttons, Megadrive buttons, N64 buttons, Gamecube buttons.

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    13. Pledge €599 or more


      About $650 USD
      1 backer

      - BUNDLE PACK -

      SD CARD WITH 10 GAMES + Retro Magic Z-Pads + SMACH Z PRO and charger + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Get a bungle of great games into a free SD card. The included games list is not closed yet, but we'll find a good balance between indies, AAA and rare gems. These ones are pre-confirmed to be included in the bundle: Party Hard, Mount & Blade: Warband, OlliOlli 2, VVVVVV and Monaco.

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    14. Pledge €650 or more


      About $705 USD
      4 backers

      - SZ CARRYING CASE -

      CARRYING CASE + SD Card with 10 games + Retro Magic Z-Pads + SMACH Z PRO and charger + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Get a the official SMACH carrying case to protect your favorite console. Exclusive design with specific pockets to bring Magic Z-Pads, and extra battery and SD cards with you.

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    15. Pledge €750 or more


      About $814 USD
      0 backers

      - FRIENDS PACK SZ x3 -

      3 SMACH Z AND CHARGER + 3 Thanks

      If you are a group of 3 friends you can get SMACH Z even cheaper with this Special Pack. Contact us if you want a specific combination of colors. Please notice that this pack doesn't include the previous rewards, just the 3 SMACH Z.

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    16. Pledge €800 or more


      About $868 USD
      3 backers

      - BEST FRIENDS PACK SZ PRO x2 -

      2 SMACH Z PRO AND CHARGER + 2 Magic Z-Pads packs + 2 Thanks

      You and your best friend get a SMACH Z PRO with Magic Z-Pads at a crazy price. Contact us if you want a specific combination of colors. Please notice that this pack doesn't include the previous rewards, just the 2 SMACH Z PRO and 2 Magic Z-Pads.

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    17. Pledge €900 or more


      About $977 USD
      2 backers

      - THE GOLDEN SMACH - (for Collectors)

      GOLDEN SZ WITH NAME ENGRAVED + Carrying case + SD Card with 10 games + Retro Magic Z-Pads + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Get the legendary GOLDEN SMACH Z PRO and engrave the sentence you want in the back of the console. The Golden Edition is a very limited Edition!

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    18. Pledge €1,500 or more


      About $1,628 USD
      0 backers

      - SMACH DEVKIT - (for Developers)

      DEVELOPER SUPPORT FOR LIFE + Golden SZ with name engraved + Carrying case + SD Card with 10 games + Retro Magic Z-Pads + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Get direct access support to our team and priority developers handling. Of course you get all previous rewards!

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    19. Pledge €3,000 or more


      About $3,256 USD
      0 backers Limited (50 left of 50)

      - SMACH BETA PACK - (for Reviewers)

      BETA SMACH Z + Developer Support for life + Golden SZ with name engraved + Carrying case + SD Card with 10 games + Retro Magic Z-Pads + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      Be the first in trying the SMACH Z Industrial prototype, we will send you the limited Beta versions in May. If you are a youtuber or journalist this will permit to do an early review of SMACH. You also get the Golden SMACH and all previous rewards!

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    20. Pledge €5,000 or more


      About $5,427 USD
      0 backers Limited (10 left of 10)

      - SMACH PRODUCER -

      NAME ENGRAVED IN SMACH Z + DINNER WITH SMACH TEAM + Beta SMACH Z + Developer Support for life + Golden SZ with name engraved + Carrying case + SD Card with 10 games + Retro Magic Z-Pads + Extra SZ battery + Magic Z-Pads + T-Shirt + Thanks

      This is the ultimate pack. We really want to thank you for your generous pledge in person, inviting to dinner with our team. Also the entire first production run of consoles will have your name engraved in the back. Includes all previous rewards.

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    21. Pledge €7,000


      About $7,597 USD
      0 backers

      - DISTRIBUTOR TIER -

      10 SMACH Z + 10 SMACH Z PRO

      This is a special pack for shops and distributors that want to be able to offer SMACH Z exclusively in first. Contact us if you want a specific combination of colors. Shipping and customs to be arranged directly with SMACH Team.

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    Stretch goals:
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  2. TheCasketMan

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    Nice concept but very weak specs. It uses an AMD 8330E GPU which even an old intel integrated 4000 GPU beats, and a Jaguar CPU which is also underwhelming, and will probably be weaker than the one that the PS4/One uses due to power consumption.

    But those GameCube buttons have me hypnotized into buying it.
     
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  3. GoldenSun3DS

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    Actually, that CPU and GPU in their current prototype isn't the final specs.
    They're actually going to be using a currently unreleased (and unfinished) AMD APU and can't reveal its specs under NDA from AMD.


    Besides, even if that was its GPU, I found this video after some googling:


    Crysis 3 on HD 8330 on low settings around 20FPS.
    Not sure how the CPU used with it compares with the placeholder CPU in the Smach Z prototype.
     
  4. ultramario1998

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    This looks super awesome.

    If the 'handheld' market is drying up, I think this might be the optimal way to go.

    plus, think of the possibilities for Dolphin. Melee on the go anyone?
     
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    Must...Have...Perfect mobile emulation... (me, too)
     
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  6. GoldenSun3DS

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    Plus, if you get the Pro model, you can use it as a phone via Skype over 4G connection.
     
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    As long as it plays the Dolphin emulator and PCSX2, then I'm happy, but I doubt it since the Dolphin devs are always trash talking AMD products.
     
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    Problem with Dolphin is that it's still dual core usage only :(
     
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    all I've ever wanted in a machine
     
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  11. FAST6191

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    €900K goal... enough to be more than an interest gauge but not enough for a real device, unless they are just middlemen for something already existing (and things do). Though they appear to already be in with a hardware manufacturer so maybe an interest gauge and a good chunk of a setup payment. Not sure what the stretch goal amounts are but given they bump it to 8 gigs of RAM (from 4), a 1080p screen (from 720) and some more internal memory my chancer alarm has just gone off.

    For a device with the dubious claim to fame of being a steamos device.

    Yeah they can keep it.
     
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    Running SteamOS meaning no Skyrim on the go... Pass.
     
  13. GoldenSun3DS

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    They actually lost a backer yesterday, and lost a small amount, too.


    I think their major problems are:
    1. Windows is behind a stretch goal, so people don't want to back unless it meets said stretch goal.


    2. They don't want to show their current prototype because it's not the final version, making people skeptical and withdraw their backing.


    3. They can't reveal benchmarks because the APU they're going to use isn't released yet by AMD, and so they can't say anything about it.

    AMD needs to allow them to reveal expected performance levels, or it's going to fail and then AMD won't sell any of their APUs in the Smach Z, because there won't be a Smach Z.


    4. 4G, but no phone call/texting functionality (Skype can't receive texts, and would be reliant on constant 4G connection)

    I think if they added in a mobile chip (for basic and Pro) to allow you to use it as a replacement for phones, more people would want it. It can't add much extra cost because there's $20-$40 smartphones at Walmart with full calling/texting/4G/3G and 480P-720P screens with 512MB-1GB RAM.

    Heck, it doesn't even have to be integrated if they could produce a small attachment that connects via USB, like a really slim USB drive.
     
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    It looks really promising, too bad it was cancelled 21 hours ago.
     
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    Why cancelled?
     
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    We got a few fools that were eager to be parted with their money but it seems the world has a shortage of fools right now.

    900K is an ambitious price to produce a device of note with, especially if it is built from the ground up, and would likely need far more. [I had always expected they had some private backing somewhere or this was a kind of first round investment alternative]

    We really should not have tried this without a solid design. Electronics design can take a while and it is quite possible to spend 2 years making something only to find someone came out with a chip to do it all in the meantime, this is not one of those cases.

    We could not get a cnc/3d printer shop to play along and make a shell and/or design a prototype to showcase the capabilities properly.

    We were designing a games PC device and did not consider windows because actually I do not know, that was a serious oversight on our part.

    Having the top tier backers get things after lower tier people was not a good plan. We are surprised too.

    But don’t worry, this isn’t a tragedy muahahaha we got some free advertising and market research.
     
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    will support installing any os
     
  19. _v3

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    If the stretch goal is reached, which won't happen since the project was cancelled yesterday (according to the kickstarter page).
     
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