should i change from WBFS to Fat32?

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Jan 30, 2011
  1. madeirabhoy
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    ive had a drive formatted as WBFS for a couple of years, but im wondering if now is the time to change it to fat32 or another format.

    Im perfectly happy with it, its a 1tb drive with two partitions, 1x500 gig for films, 1x500 gig for wii.

    if i am going to make the change then nowish is the best time as i have a 1tb drive in my mac with plenty of space.

    just thinking about it now, as im copying lots of games off my wii onto the drive for my friends daughter. ill need to change them to .wbfs for her as it has to go on a drive that has already films and stuff on it. I know next week ill need to set up a wii for a colleague's kid, which i could do either as wbfs or since ill have all of these .wbfs files sitting on my drive i may as well wait til then.

    and thats got me thinking, should i just copy all of the other games off of it, change them all to .wbfs and change the wii drive to just one big partition with games and movies on the same drive?

    1 downside is im on a mac so ntfs is out, i tried having my mac's external drive formatted as ntfs and tried it with paragon's driver then with tuxeras. both caused big issues so in the end my mac's drive is half hfs+ and half exFAT so that my mac and my bootcamp pc partition can see it.


    at the moment i use usbloader gx for games and WiiMC for films.

    Should i make the change? any major upsides or downsides? any tips?


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    .wbfs has a 500 games limit so you might want to considerer changing soon
     
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    that doesnt bother me so much, looking just now ive 147 games and ive had a modded wii for over 2 years. it was nearer the 200 but i went on a pruning exercise and deleted loads of games id never spent more than 5 minutes on.
     
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    ive been using wbfs ever since i found out about usb loading and ive had no problems..
    some people say its unstable, but id rather not have the 2gb file limit thats on fat32 drives
     
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    That's old info.

    Wbfs partitions can hold far more games now.
    The bigger the drive, the bigger the cluster become, resulting is games using more space on wbfs.

    If I where you, I'd switch to FAT32.

    +It's a multi platform format. ( readable on almost any system )
    +Most homebrew apps can be loaded from a fat drive. ( Making SD card obsolete in some cases )
    +Easy to manage/ maintain.

    - files larger than 4 GB need to be split. ( Wiibackupmanager can do this automaticly with Wii games. )
    -No DVD movies/ iso, unless split converted. ( 4 GB max file size )
     
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    i did that change...FAT32/WBFS to a single FAT32....i'm happy with it. the biggest benefit for me is being able to use SNEEK-DI on the same drive for the problematic game. while you could probably do this with your setup while keeping the WBFS paritition, i couldn't because my initial setup was only ~5GB FAT32 and the rest WBFS (640GB total)....since i had to reconfigure anyhow to get the larger FAT32, it only made sense to convert it all.

    other benefits i like:

    1. not being tethered to WBFS Manager....if i'm moving games with a computer at a friends house, i don't have to worry about installing anything (like .NET Framework--it's so sloooowwww to install)

    2. not being faced with the "do you want to format the drive" question when you plug it into a computer....not that i ever accidentally formatted, but i was always scared i would forget and hit enter....

    dude, it's a 4GB limit....
     
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    cheers for the answers so far, probably ill do it then.

    is there a mac app that handles conversions to .wbfs and splitting and things or do i need to use bootcamp for it?
     
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    there is this one which is the only wbfs manager for mac
     
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    mate, link doesnt work. i have 'WBFS for MacOS X 1.2' which doesnt do any conversions to .wbfs or anything, its designed for just wbfs drives. Ive tried Wiij manager which doesnt even see my drive.

    its not a major issue if i have to restart into pc to deal with my drive, but if i do that should i go with NTFS as the only reason i was avoiding it was mac incompatiblity?
     
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    Go for fa32 instead of ntfs it has higher compatability with many devices
     
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    FAT32 has no higher device compatility, only a better program compatility.
    @madeirabhoy:
    Make a half with fat32 for programs and a half with ntfs for games if you have a windows, otherwise use fat32.
     
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    DVD movies will work fine
    DVD-Video uses max 2GiB files
     
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    not an issue for me, no hd tv, i use WiiMC.

    no my main issue is how to get the games into .wbfs ideally on a mac
     
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    tried wiimm's wit?
    I'm usin' it on ubuntu for a year now
    never looked for guis 'cause I use script automation

    iirc there's ogzees's wbfs_file too
     
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    ? Try playing a .iso.
    It's bigger than 4 gigs. Most DVD's are Dual layer discs.
    If your DVD video is ~2 GB it's allready converted.

    I said it had to be coverted did'nt I ?

    Anyway a file bigger than 4 gigs HAS to be made smaller in order to be copied to a FAT 32 Drive.
     
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    I didn't say .iso
    I said DVD movie

    a dvd movie as it is stored on DVD and is copied by eg AnyDVD:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
    no file is bigger than even 1GiB
    it will store on FAT just fine
    they even made the filenames 8.3 compatible for really old systems
     
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    thing is my movies and tv side was always fat32 so thats not a downside.


    did it and it was easier than i thought. anyone thinking about it, forget doing it on your mac side, using scary command line stuff, just get used to restarting into windows and its cushdy...
     
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    um that was overcome a long time ago wiibackup manager auto splits the games into 2-4 GB as .wbfs files
     
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    did the jump myself, most things work. not daisy fuentes pilates so the wife is pissed off.

    however then i used modwii to set up a friends daughters wii under fat32. ive used modwii a few times and always worked perfectly, but ive always been using usbloader gx and always formatting as wbfs.

    this time i followed all the steps, replaced cfg loader with usbloader gx 2, and half of the games didnt work, got black screen. many worked, but wi fit plus didnt for example.

    swapped the games drive into my wii, all worked apart from daisy. wi fit worked fine.

    swapped back, lots of games gave black screen.

    swapped usbloader gx for cfg loader and all games worked...


    well except for glee sing it.....

    so....

    why doesnt glee work? why doesnt usbloader gx work well on a machine set up from modwii?
     

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