Hacking Seems TX is not completely done - SX OS update coming soon™

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"SXOS is dead any day now" - you for 2 years
Absolutely not what I said. Try saying something instead of fabricating a quote. Also, don't pretend like you know me; I've actually defended SX's existence (and have bought a license) for a good couple years so don't give me this BS about "you for 2 years" in an attempt to be snarky because it's patently false.

The point is, there will likely come a time where games will start requiring a newer firmware version and the methods of overriding the requirement (editing the NCA and decrypting the file with the newer master key on a PC) won't work anymore.

Look, it's time to face facts. There hasn't been a new SX version in quite some time, and several new FW versions are left in the cold. It's time to give up. Will there be a new version? Maybe. But why not just bite the bullet now?
 

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Absolutely not what I said. Try saying something instead of fabricating a quote. Also, don't pretend like you know me; I've actually defended SX's existence (and have bought a license) for a good couple years so don't give me this BS about "you for 2 years" in an attempt to be snarky because it's patently false.

The point is, there will likely come a time where games will start requiring a newer firmware version and the methods of overriding the requirement (editing the NCA and decrypting the file with the newer master key on a PC) won't work anymore.

Look, it's time to face facts. There hasn't been a new SX version in quite some time, and several new FW versions are left in the cold. It's time to give up. Will there be a new version? Maybe. But why not just bite the bullet now?
Why would there NEED to be a new version?

There's literally no need. The games aren't broke so why would they come out of hiding? They slinked out of the shadows and dropped an update when games broke last time AFTER the raids and arrests.

Until games break AGAIN why would they release am update? For Bluetooth audio? Give me a break.
 

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Until games break AGAIN why would they release am update? For Bluetooth audio? Give me a break.
Every time there is a new firmware version release, people obliviously update to the new version. Look at the Atmosphere threads every time a new firmware is released.

People on those updates are now forced into using Atmosphere, which takes users from SX. SX wants to keep people on their product. It doesn't matter if there are new features; as a software maintainer you want to keep people on your software.
 

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It's not SXOS fault that there are dumb users that accidentally update when everyone who uses SXOS/Atmosphere are ALWAYS told not to update when a new firmware comes out.

Regardless, SXOS isn't broken there's no need for them to fix it. Until games officially are broken and there's no sign of them back for about a month from them breaking I don't see why anyone would stop using SXOS when it works with 100% of games to date.
 
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It's not SXOS fault that there are dumb users that accidentally update when everyone who uses SXOS/Atmosphere are ALWAYS told not to update when a new firmware comes out.
You're still missing the bigger picture. It doesn't matter if it's their fault or not.
If I'm TX, I want people to be using my software. I want to sell licenses and continue to have as many users as possible. I'm going to update my software to reach as many users as possible, because not doing so forces them to use a functional competitor. What is someone is already on an unsupported firmware and is just starting to get into hacking it? They can't buy SX OS. Now they lost revenue.

You're looking at this from the perspective of a hobbyist instead of a business. A (living) business would update it even if there is no feature reason.
 

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It's not SXOS fault that there are dumb users that accidentally update when everyone who uses SXOS/Atmosphere are ALWAYS told not to update when a new firmware comes out.

Regardless, SXOS isn't broken there's no need for them to fix it. Until games officially are broken and there's no sign of them back for about a month from them breaking I don't see why anyone would stop using SXOS when it works with 100% of games to date.
Games still pretty much work with SX OS. The problem is that's highly unlikely to continue, since SX OS is dead.
 
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SX OS Version 3.1.0 was "released" (there was no official announcement but it was discovered) on December 5th according to GBATemp while firmware 11.0 was released on November 30th which is in actually in line for most of their releases.
 
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Their last update was released one week after games broke.

Gee, I guess I'll wait until one week after games break again before moving to Atmosphere
I thought SX OS 3.1.0 was in response to system version 11.0.0, not "broken games" that couldn't be patched to be played on older system versions.
 

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That version broke games. I remember the Monster Hunter Demo among others not working.
The Monster Hunter Demo was patchable to 9.2.0, so it never had a 11.0.0 requirement anymore than anything now has an 11.0.1+ requirement.

Somebody can correct me if I'm mistaken.
 

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This is the Church of Bowser. I know you are strong believers but your savior isn’t here anymore.

Time so move on to a more active, free and open source alternative? :)
 

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Those are all bugs that TX wouldn't give a shit about previously with the exception of gamecart bug if it breaks xci loading. I'd be shocked if they release anything. I hope most of you already made the jump to source/atmosphere so you don't have to wait.

I'm guessing most people are like me. Just sitting on 11.0.0 until there is something which forces us to update past that. I have too many XCI's on my dock HDD to want to jump just yet.
 

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But if you have thousands of games then you are just hoarding for the sake of hoarding.
You don't actually need all those games. Most of those titles won't even be more than shovelware which will only sit there untouched. I think it's safe to say that even if you play a LOT, 1TB will be enough.

It doesn't take thousands of games to fill up a 1TB card and its not enough when you have a shared system used among kids / wives / girlfriends / friends that come over with unique tastes. The 512GB card I got didn't take much to fill up. That's also assuming you only want to use your SD card just for game storage. For those that use Retroarch / Android / whatever homebrew that space gets eaten up fast. As others have stated plenty of times every time this discussion comes up, 1TB cards are still not cheap. When one can pick up a 2TB SD for 50 bucks then it will become a viable and affordable option. For now those sizes are going to be out of reach of most.
 
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