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    So true there are places which jailbreak consoles.
     
  2. MrJason005

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale
     
  3. DrayanoX

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    Look up The Witcher 3. AAA game with absolutely no DRM (it was released on GOG, you could literally buy it once and copy/share it to as many PC as you want), yet it sold millions of copies. Because it was actually a GOOD game.
     
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    I'm even more astounded by DRM warriors and damage control who seem to be okay with developers who get off by implementing DRM into their games. "B..but muh DRM, I must stop teh piratez!" Ha ha ha ha ha, are they for real? Do they honestly believe that having DRM is going to increase sales? Ha ha ha ha ha! I would love to see evidence that states stronger DRM = stronger sales. Projekt CD and GOG both say hi.

    Sorry, but restrictive/unnecessarily invasive DRM only drives people to pirate the game and/or crack the DRM, not encourage more to buy it.
     
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  5. Song of storms

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    The Witcher 3 was widely anticipated because everyone played the first two. You don't need DRM if your game is good AND you have a lot of visibility. Good luck making any kind of money if you're a new developer and made an ok game. So what, just because they didn't make the next GOTY they deserve no money?

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    For some reason I highly doubt that you don't lock the door of your house before leaving it. But why would you? It's unnecessary security because anybody with the right equipment can break it! Might as well just leave it unlocked! Hypocrite.
     
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    DRM is like putting a lock on a door that must open when you turn the handle and for which forced entry leaves no clues of tampering. Also, in the world of lock breaking/bypass tools being illegal you'd have to be ban axes, screwdrivers, hammers, shoulder pads, etc. So, yes, DRM can be meant to be a tool like physical locks to keep honest people honest, but there's a whole slew of ways in which physical locks are different than digital ones.

    There's also a big difference between you putting a lock on your house door and using it vs your bank for which you owe a mortgage (and for which all bank mortgaged homes use the same lock/key [system]). It doesn't make you a hypocrite. Like DRM, part of the reason for a physical lock is as a basis for harsher punishments. The difference is often in the practicality of enforcement in getting even a basic punishment applied. Ie, actually finding and punishing a pirate vs finding and punishing a trespasser.
     
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    Yeah, you keep believing that, dude, keep using unsubstantiated and baseless assumptions. DRM is bad, it hurts consumers, you cannot deny it. Nowhere does DRM benefit the customer, nor does it help with sales.
     
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    he must have posted his receipt online :creep:
     
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    Nobody bothers even pirating indie games that aren't any good really. Not sure what your pont is. I don't like the "if they pirated it, they weren't going to buy it anyway" excuse, but it works in thos case. Or is your point that we now have to go out and buy average to below average indie games now because someone out there might have copied it to another computer?

    Oh, and btw, the first 2 Witcher games were DRM free as well, so the hype thing doesn't add up here.
     
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    "Ok" doesn't mean "not good". Pokémon Ultra Sun/Moon were ok games.
     
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    Game Freak is a new developer now?
     
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    It was an example. I'll let you know next time I play an ok indie game.
     
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    Wait... What? Did you really just compare the security of your house and potentially your family to telling consumers they don't actually own the product they BOUGHT? The hell is wrong with you? DRM is nothing short of insulting to the end consumer.
     
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    Thank you! Glad someone else finally said it :P Not sure what the hell kind of gas he's been huffing.
     
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    Okay let's admit for a second that DRM help sales. In that case, why developers don't remove the DRM from their game once the game is cracked ?
     
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    Sometimes they do, but in both cases it's because of contractual reasons usually. Either because they don't want to renew the contract if the game is cracked, or they are contractually bound not to remove it until a certain time.
     
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    I won’t be surprised If denuvo updates to v5.5 or even v6.0 after this incident. His name and likeness will be used as a message to those who try to crack denuvo. “Crack our DRM, and everyone’s game will get more worse in performance”.

    Denuvo is starting to sound like a company that is usually the villain of a dystopian sci-if world that is evil and it’s ruining people’s fun. They’ve gotten too powerful for global cyberspace and they’re basically as corrupt as governments and law enforcement. They’re probably best friends with the greedy AAA industry right now. I bet they’re popping corks and having parties at each headquarters.
     
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    there are other party poopers thou, CPY, Baldman and Steam Punks and I hope others come along and spoil the party.
     
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    Dude, I hope so.
     
  23. Trash_Bandatcoot

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    OOF.
    My cracked copy of Mania Plus was also cracked by Voski, so now it’s officially illegal.

    Please FBI, don’t track me down!

    For how long will he be in jail, anyway?
     
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