Say if you cannot respawn in shooters.

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  1. Yil
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    You get yourself killed the very second into open fire in a relalistic situation. We can also be rid of bro gamers.
    Or they are simply piece of s**t.
     
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    You mean Search and Destroy?
     
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    That reminds me of the movie "Gamer"
     
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    So in a multiplayer, if you die, you are out for the entire match, on all modes.
     
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    That would shorten games a lot.

    2 minutes, Team Bravo won.
     
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    Or they need to take a more tactical approach and think things through before attempting rash behaviour.
     
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    That would be more realistic actually. I have to agree with you there.
     
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    There's an indie game in development, Due Process, it has two sides and they both work as a team rather than mindless killing. This is accomplished by having a time before the match where teams can make battle plans and discuss strategy. I think it's a cops vs robbers heist game rather than military though. It could be just what you're looking for Yil!
     
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    I was saying that respawn ruin fps.
     
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    I forgot
    There are dozens of FPS games that do this. Go play CS, or Insurgency, or stick to no-respawn modes on CoD/BF
     
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    Why even add respawn anyway. And some even think they are certified for war.
     
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    Respawn is there so you can keep playing instead of just getting frustrated. Too many games you can just get cheaply sniped and have to sit back and wait for a new match. CS does it well since the games are short and the skill ceiling is high, but a game like TF2 doesn't work well with no respawn.
     
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    Yeah but it is the thing that turns what is enjoyable into a bro game.
     
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    I strongly disagree.


    Look...the time until you respawn is an important factor in the development of an FPS (or rather: a gametype therein), and designers should do well to properly take this into account before...well...probably before anything else. The longer it is, the more you'll have to accommodate for tactics that are useless or irrelevant on the "zero time until respawn"-spectrum. That's why games like quake or unreal tournament don't have a lean-function: the pace is just too fast to make use of it. But the longer it takes to come back into a match (assuming you ever DO come back), the more you'll value that life you have. It's a different kind of game. Not the kind of game I usually tend to like, but I'm not everyone. :)


    Basically, what I'm saying is: the respawning itself isn't the problem, and certainly not something that ruins a genre that is way too broad to make these bold statements about (half life and strictly speaking even portal are FPS'es...surely they're not ruined by respawning...).

    Erm...no?

    I just googled the definition of brogame. Here:

    Usually referred to
    Halo 2-4 (HeyBro 4 )
    Call of Duty (Bro of Duty)
    Modern Warfare (Modern Brofare)
    Or any online shooting game where one or more Bros can get on a complain about camping or not getting a kill due to hacking or some other tactic of playing

    (source)


    So theoretically, I can actually argue the exact opposite: the longer the respawn time, the more camping gets rewarded (though this depends a great deal on level design as well), and as such, more people ("bros", I guess? :unsure: ) will complain about it. Thus turning it into a brogame...I assume.
     
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    It's already there since Unreal Tournament 99. is called last man standing.