Safe to play legit MK7 online without getting auto FW update?

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by Smash Br0, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. Smash Br0

    Smash Br0 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Jun 6, 2009
    United States
    I know that my 3DS will automatically download firmware updates if left connected to the Internet while in sleep mode. What I don't know is if it will still download those updates while playing a legit Mario Kart 7 game online. I'm hoping it doesn't - then I could just leave the WiFi switch off, except when playing online.

    I've getting a Gateway, but I dunno if the exploit it uses stops auto FW updates or not. I think I read somewhere it does? Is is still safe to play legit 3DS games online after the exploit has been installed, or from emuNAND?

    It would be nice to leave the WiFi on again, to play ≤4.5 FW games online and get StreetPasses, without having to worry about getting that annoying update prompt every time I power the 3DS on. I don't have that pompt now, but if I did, would the Gateway exploit get rid of it? Would passing one of those Nintendo Zone spots like they have in most McDonald's automatically download a FW update, even if it wasn't registered in Network settings?

    Thanks for any advice.
  2. masenko

    masenko Advanced Member

    Jul 24, 2007
    Nottingham, England
    i dont think gateway works online yet. mk7 requires a patch to play online anyways so you would need the latest firmware to download it from e-shop thus blocking gateway. this means original karts only for online, you can still play single player.
  3. redkeyboard

    redkeyboard GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Jan 8, 2013
    United States
    He's not talking about playing the gateway version. In response to OP's question I'm not sure but it seems likely that it will download the update while playing.
  4. Chaldron

    Chaldron GBATemp's Official Attorney

    Mar 29, 2013
    United States
    It will probably download the update anytime it's connected to the internet and in 3DS mode. However, I do not know for sure.

    The Gateway installer doesn't stop downloading updates, only stops nagging you to install them. It would be the same thing, but the files do download onto the SD Card.
  5. Armadillo

    Armadillo GBAtemp Psycho!

    Aug 28, 2003
    United Kingdom
    Updates only download if you sit around on the home screen/leave it sleeping & even then, I think you need spotpass on (not sure).

    It won't download firmware updates if you just switch wifi on once you are in game. I played Mario Kart online for a long time on 4.5 (already had the update from eshop) and Luigis mansion and it never downloaded a firmware update.

    It doesn't auto update anyway, so unless you have a habit of accidental accepting the prompt twice, then it wouldn't install anyway, even if it did download one.
  6. octopus

    octopus Member New

    Sep 6, 2013
    If the update is needed to go online, it won’t work on 4.5, since you’re not able to use eShop. AFAIK the update corrected some shortcuts to avoid cheating so I assume you must install it before you play. If it’s not forced to you you’ll be able to play online just like with ACNL where is an update available but the game goes online just fine without it.
    If you’re able to play the game online—you’re fine. Just press B every time it prompts to update. Be careful and keep it in mind. Your console won’t be updated without you knowing it. Just read all the pop-ups. I heard people updating when trying download play and things. So, just be careful.
  7. tyons

    tyons GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Jul 11, 2012
    wait, that MK7 patch masenko talked about, what firmware is it in?
  8. Randamin

    Randamin GBAtemp Regular

    Feb 1, 2010
    United States
    Laredo, TX
    To play MK7 online one needs to download a patch that fixed various shortcuts to get ahead in the race. In order to download this patch you need to enter the eshop and download it. If you already have this patch downloaded then yes going online with an official game should not be a problem. My primary 3DS has the latest firmware updates but if I consider getting a secondary 3DS along with the Gateway then I will be unable to download the online update from the eShop.
  9. driverdis

    driverdis I am Justice

    Sep 21, 2011
    United States
    the MK7 patch came out before 5.x firmware did (the patch came out ~may 15th, 2012, firmware 5.x was not introduced until ~March 25th, 2013) .

    the legit cart with the update cannot auto update the system firmware as far as I know. wasn't the firmware auto download and apply in sleep feature introduced the 5.x firmware?

    I actually had it downloaded before I even purchased MK7. I do not have a Gateway3DS as i am on firmware 6.x, but what I want to know is if online works if you already had the MK7 patch downloaded before or while on 4.5, then run the game via Gateway.
    is there really nobody with a Gateway who is 4.5 or lower and has the MK7 patch to see if online works then?

    I am considering getting a 4.5 or lower 3DS and Gateway sometime soon so thats why i am asking.
  10. kyogre123

    kyogre123 Mexican Pride

    Sep 23, 2013
    Of course it works, but I'm not understanding what you are asking exactly so I'll give you 3 answers:

    1. Mario Kart works perfectly fine on 4.5 if you have the 1.1 patch outside GW mode.
    2. A retail cartridge can't be read on GW mode, so it simply won't work with GW 1.2
    3. I downloaded the Taiwanese version of Mario Kart and it loaded the 1.1 icon perfectly fine, of course you can't play for the sole reason GW has no online support yet.
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  11. driverdis

    driverdis I am Justice

    Sep 21, 2011
    United States
    thanks for the reply.
    I was asking both #1 and #3. I already know about retail carts not working in GW 1.2.
    next time I ask something, I will clarify what exactly I am asking to avoid needing to guess what the questions are.
  12. Tomorrow's Joe

    Tomorrow's Joe Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    United States
    I'm not sure why people say this because I have a Gateway, yet still get the nag screen.
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  13. pelago

    pelago Member

    Feb 20, 2006
    I'm pretty sure that, yes, it will download the update, or at least set the flag on the 3DS so that it will nag you each time you turn it on. So unfortunately it is not safe to walk around just trying to get Streetpasses, unless you're very sure you're not near a Nintendo Zone.
  14. XiTaU

    XiTaU GBAtemp Regular

    May 15, 2008
    United States
    ive played alot of kid icarus online on 4.5fw and its never downloaded the update i can only assume most if not all games would be the same and not download while in a wifi session.
  15. EvilGamerX

    EvilGamerX Member

    Mar 14, 2009
    United States

    that's weird, my 3ds in Gateway mode still asks me to update
  16. RupeeClock

    RupeeClock Colors 3D Snivy!

    May 15, 2008
    I believe this is what the point of the Gateway's emulated NAND is.
    The 3ds boots 4.5.x from its genuine NAND, and from there you use the Gateway exploit to load up an emulated NAND from the SD card.
    In emulated NAND mode you can freely update the firmware on emu-NAND, without updating the firmware on the genuine NAND.
    With current firmware on emu-NAND you can freely access the eShop to download the MK7 patch, and play your copy online without being prompted to update your firmware, and continue to use the Gateway as you please.
  17. Warrior522

    Warrior522 "In all things, balance."

    Jul 21, 2010
    United States
    ...March comes before May...
  18. Arnold0

    Arnold0 GBAtemp Fan

    Oct 1, 2011
    Vire, France
    2012 comes before 2013 :)
  19. Warrior522

    Warrior522 "In all things, balance."

    Jul 21, 2010
    United States
    Touche. Sleep deprivation is kicking my ass harder than I though.