Roe V Wade has been repealed

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Look at you, crying again. What a whiner.

Biden's already set to filibuster the codifying of Roe v Wade. Even if that's all he did during his presidency, that's still gonna be way more than Trump ever did.

Good night, sweet dreams, don't let the thoughts of people having rights keep you up too late. I'm sure you'll have more vitriol to spread tomorrow.
Haha, funny. When the republicans take over again they will just add even more and it will be back to square one, Biden will be impeached soon enough, I will laugh at that.
 
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Look at you, crying again. What a whiner.

Biden's already set to filibuster the codifying of Roe v Wade. Even if that's all he did during his presidency, that's still gonna be way more than Trump ever did.

Good night, sweet dreams, don't let the thoughts of people having rights keep you up too late. I'm sure you'll have more vitriol to spread tomorrow.
Biden can't even wipe his ass by himself, so unless he does want a civil war, that old cocksucker isn't gonna do anything. Your benevolent isn't gonna do shit if he knows what's good for him. His main job is to improve and protect the US citizens, which he has not done a single thing. Trump made this nation strong in 4 years despite all the push back he got, and Biden destroyed all that in 4 months. You better hope a civil war doesn't actually start, cause then we'd actually take our country back and guys like you would have to leave for good.
 
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Haha, funny. When the republicans take over again they will just add even more and it will be back to square one, Biden will be impeached soon enough, I will laugh at that.

You mean the way Trump got impeached twice? Honestly I see Biden dying of old age before his term is up, but that's still more desirable than letting Chester Cheetah or any of his cohorts back into the office.

Tell me, when's the last time Republicans took control of anything? Trump was laughable every day in office and Bush didn't do much either. Is it when the second coming of Jesus that Republicans will actually have majority control? Cuz right now the only thing they got going for them is lobbying dying enterprises like coal and oil.

Good try though.
 

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So just to confirm:

Women having access to abortion = public health issue
Women having access to prenatal care = not a public health issue
Women's babies = not a part of the public

Is my understanding correct?

Public health typically refers to situations where the health of a large group of people as a whole is at stake. Whether this is COVID, bad meat, a radioactive spill, so on and so forth, makes no difference as long as it affects a large group of people in an open, public area.

Women having access to abortions can be considered a public health issue as the lack of such care affects women as a whole, but honestly that's more of a general health issue, as groups of women don't go and have abortions in the middle of a public space.

Prenatal care has the same response as above.

If a baby is taken into the public, then it becomes part of the public, if we're looking at this literally, but the real answer is that while the baby's foray into the public is irrelevant, it's also of no business to anyone else outside the select few that care for it.

Let me ask you this as a rebuttal: if you believe having a baby, and any abortion that may be considered with it, is a public health issue, then why is the care of the baby before and after birth not a public health issue as well? At what point is it feasible to reason that the birth of a child is the only part of that child's life that deserves to be at the concern of the general public?
 

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Biden can't even wipe his ass by himself, so unless he does want a civil war, that old cocksucker isn't gonna do anything. Your benevolent isn't gonna do shit if he knows what's good for him. His main job is to improve and protect the US citizens, which he has not done a single thing. Trump made this nation strong in 4 years despite all the push back he got, and Biden destroyed all that in 4 months. You better hope a civil war doesn't actually start, cause then we'd actually take our country back and guys like you would have to leave for good.

I missed this post. My bad.

Who's going to incite the civil war? Is it going to be the anti abortion Republicans? Who are they going to fight? Pregnant women? What a war that'll be.

At what point did Trump make the country strong? Was it when he tanked the economy right after COVID because he didn't understand the implications of the nothing he did when it became a large public issue? Was it when he put strain on all of our intercontinental trade by having a cow over China and then buddy buddied with Russia?

What an American thing to say: "When we start rioting we're gonna kick all the other Americans out!" No wonder your party has never been anything more than a waste of time and human organs.
 

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Let me ask you this as a rebuttal: if you believe having a baby, and any abortion that may be considered with it, is a public health issue, then why is the care of the baby before and after birth not a public health issue as well? At what point is it feasible to reason that the birth of a child is the only part of that child's life that deserves to be at the concern of the general public?

I've heard people say that women not being able to access healthcare is a "public health issue", and they include abortion as being part of healthcare.

If they include abortion, then why not include prenatal care as well. And if prenatal care is included, then perhaps the health of the baby is part of the "public health" equation as well.

Care of the baby after birth would be postnatal care which I presume is considered healthcare as well.
 

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I've heard people say that women not being able to access healthcare is a "public health issue", and they include abortion as being part of healthcare.

If they include abortion, then why not include prenatal care as well. And if prenatal care is included, then perhaps the health of the baby is part of the "public health" equation as well.

Care of the baby after birth would be postnatal care which I presume is considered healthcare as well.
Are you a childfree fanatic?
 

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I've heard people say that women not being able to access healthcare is a "public health issue", and they include abortion as being part of healthcare.

If they include abortion, then why not include prenatal care as well. And if prenatal care is included, then perhaps the health of the baby is part of the "public health" equation as well.

Care of the baby after birth would be postnatal care which I presume is considered healthcare as well.

So if all these things are considered public healthcare, then it stands to reason that the public should be involved in every aspect of the child's growth, correct? It doesn't make sense to call every respect of a child's development a public health issue but then only be active during the birthing process.

If Republicans want to stop abortions so bad, then they need to stop being hypocrites and start supporting the ideas that foster environments where people want to have the child. Unfortunately, that comes across as socialism, which of course no Republican likes.
So then we get into this never ending cycle where Republicans want to stop abortions but don't care enough to actually do anything about it unless it resorts down to control.

Modern day Republicans are turning very quick into new age Nazism.
 
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I missed this post. My bad.

Who's going to incite the civil war? Is it going to be the anti abortion Republicans? Who are they going to fight? Pregnant women? What a war that'll be.

At what point did Trump make the country strong? Was it when he tanked the economy right after COVID because he didn't understand the implications of the nothing he did when it became a large public issue? Was it when he put strain on all of our intercontinental trade by having a cow over China and then buddy buddied with Russia?

What an American thing to say: "When we start rioting we're gonna kick all the other Americans out!" No wonder your party has never been anything more than a waste of time and human organs.
More nonsense and gibberish.
 

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Did you have anything more pertinent to say or is it too early to come up with anything more than potshots?

I feel like there should be a thread where people like you and I can just trade insults and leave the integrity of this thread alone.
More nonsense and gibberish. :P
 

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Inside and outside I'm sure.

What's funny is how they take this as a win. But I guess when you choose to be that degenerate, you take whatchu can get.

Back to the topic at hand, I haven't seen any updates on that 10 year old. I hope she's ok. Cases like that are going to spread like wildfire now. Notice how none of these conservatives replied to that topic, just back to hurling insults and trolling. Senseless and completely unempathetic.
 
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I would move out of state but then again that would make states (especially swing states) more power to the GOP and we don't want that especially if trump returns and goes full dictator
don't worry, I'm sure that Ron Desantis will win, Trump is too stained in the eyes of the people.


Also I feel bad for that 10 year old, but this shouldn't represent most of the bans. I'm sure the other governments would be much better about this, especially since it was a 10 year old.
 
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don't worry, I'm sure that Ron Desantis will win, Trump is too stained in the eyes of the people.


Also I feel bad for that 10 year old, but this shouldn't represent most of the bans. I'm sure the other governments would be much better about this, especially since it was a 10 year old.

But that begs the question, with cases like this, are blanket laws helpful?
 
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