Hacking Retail Pokemon OR/AS on emunand?

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I tried doing some research and found some information for x/y saying that using a retail cart would not work correctly going from sysnand to emunand and I was wondering if that is the same for OR/AS?

I have an AS cartridge that I started on sysnand 7.2, I have gateway and was hoping to be able to get online and use my cartridge and keep my save through emunand now that 3.0 is out. Is this something possible or will it still not work? Will it entirely corrupt my save if I try? If this will not work, is it possible to dump the cart with gateway and continue playing it on only emunand after that, but being able to keep the save?
 

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I tried doing some research and found some information for x/y saying that using a retail cart would not work correctly going from sysnand to emunand and I was wondering if that is the same for OR/AS?

I have an AS cartridge that I started on sysnand 7.2, I have gateway and was hoping to be able to get online and use my cartridge and keep my save through emunand now that 3.0 is out. Is this something possible or will it still not work? Will it entirely corrupt my save if I try? If this will not work, is it possible to dump the cart with gateway and continue playing it on only emunand after that, but being able to keep the save?

It should work. It wouldn't work in a console running off a 4.5 sysNAND (perhaps it does with the new launcher, I've heard reports), but you should be fine, since you have a 7.2 sysNAND.
 

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What? If retail carts work fine, then why can't I load my save when I use my dumped cart and save in Gateway mode? It tells me my save data is corrupted.
 

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What? If retail carts work fine, then why can't I load my save when I use my dumped cart and save in Gateway mode? It tells me my save data is corrupted.

Same to me with One piece unlimited World red, we need to use save data filer or anything?

Thanks ^^
 

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Same to me with One piece unlimited World red, we need to use save data filer or anything?

Thanks ^^


I tried dumping all of my games and all of their saves. I renamed the games to .3dz and the saves to the proper title id.
The games' saves were broken if the game
  1. Uses newer save encryption
  2. Has a save less than 512kb in size
That left me with only one dump+save combination working, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl.

Games whose saves didn't work with their dumps for me:
  • LoZ: A Link Between Worlds
  • Super Mario 3D World
  • Super Smash Bros
  • Pokemon X
  • Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
 

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In GW 3.0, the save data in Gateway mode still use old encryption method, so you can't load your save data with your legit ROM dump. You can use classic mode with your retail carts, since it use new encryption method.

SaveDataFiler in Gateway mode doesn't recognize the save data that is encrypted using the new method.
 

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Yeah I'm confused with all of the different options, I try booting emunand and then putting my retail cartridge in and it doesn't even show up in the menu as if there's a game in there. I'm trying to backup the rom to see if running it like that will work but from what it sounds like is there's no way to make it work and I either have to start fresh on a rom in emunand, or continue using the retail cart in sysnand but not be able to do anything online.
 

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Yeah I'm confused with all of the different options, I try booting emunand and then putting my retail cartridge in and it doesn't even show up in the menu as if there's a game in there. I'm trying to backup the rom to see if running it like that will work but from what it sounds like is there's no way to make it work and I either have to start fresh on a rom in emunand, or continue using the retail cart in sysnand but not be able to do anything online.

Boot emuNAND in Classic Mode, not Gateway Mode (hold L while running the exploit and select Classic)
 
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Sorry for hijacking the thread.

But if the OP has the actual retail cart and is on Sysnand 7.2 which can't he just slot in the retail cart and boot straight from sysnand instead of using classic mode from gateway?

I thought the only reason to use classic mode is because the retail cart requires firmware greater than 4.5 to play. (which is made redundant as gateway supports up to 9.2).

Will this not work?
 

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I want to be able to go online with it, thanks to Shady Guy Jose using that method I can boot into "emunand 9.4" in classic mode so my backups don't work, but it will read retail carts allowing me to keep my save and everything and go online with it.
 

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More details someone please...?

I started Pokemon Y on my system at 6.x and now that we can downgrade to 4.2 on US console I did that and booted into emuNAND 9.4 and booted Pokemon Y. My save is reported as being corrupted now and I can't use it. What do I do?
 

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More details someone please...?

I started Pokemon Y on my system at 6.x and now that we can downgrade to 4.2 on US console I did that and booted into emuNAND 9.4 and booted Pokemon Y. My save is reported as being corrupted now and I can't use it. What do I do?

Use classic mode with sysnand being >= 6.0; Gateway does not set the 6.X savegame keyslot.
 

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New exploit fix the problem of incompatible saves. If you had a retail cart and was playing it on 9.x, old classic mode wouldn't let you play it because the save was detected as corrupted.

But now, 9.x classic mode will be able to load the saves fine (tested with two games, and saves of both games worked, Pokemon X and Smash Bros).

Of course, if you downgrade, you'll lose the benefit of it again.
 

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New exploit fix the problem of incompatible saves. If you had a retail cart and was playing it on 9.x, old classic mode wouldn't let you play it because the save was detected as corrupted.

But now, 9.x classic mode will be able to load the saves fine (tested with two games, and saves of both games worked, Pokemon X and Smash Bros).

Of course, if you downgrade, you'll lose the benefit of it again.

This is true. However, if you dump a save from a retail cart and try to play that save in Gateway mode, it doesn't work. That's what this thread is about.
 

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Can be wrong but the first message say "retail card" and do not talk about dumping it (classic mode also use emunand).
 

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