Gaming Remember when everyone wanted nes games for the Switch Online service.

[horokeusama]

I think it's now common sense that the services is overpriced (even though it's still cheap), specially when you compare to the services from Microsoft and Sony, that give us a overall better online experience and matchmaking AND give us some freebies like games and whatnot.

It's time for consumers to make their voices listened. The service was planned to be similar in all territories, but it's clear that what might work in Japan will not work for western audiences.

I was expecting something like a full netflix-like experience with at least 10 games for every console ever released by then (until SNES at least), but a couple NES games with barebones online features feels like I'm paying just for the sake of having it.

EDIT: Fixed some typos.

 

[Tigran]

or they can just release a sunshine remastered wich is much easier since porting the game requires no emulation and they can change the controls to be switch compatible and dual joycons and whatever they want and charge full price for the hd remaster, what do you think nintendo is gonna pick?

Actually you'd be suprised how easy it is to change that one function in an emulator. *No really... It is stupid easy*.

Also if they did that, they could sell more GCN controller adapters or even GCN joycons.

But yes.. I do believe a remaster would happen before a VC in that case, I'm just saying that the Term VC is.. just.. outdated.

 

[pedro702]

Actually you'd be suprised how easy it is to change that one function in an emulator. *No really... It is stupid easy*.

Also if they did that, they could sell more GCN controller adapters or even GCN joycons.

But yes.. I do believe a remaster would happen before a VC in that case, I'm just saying that the Term VC is.. just.. outdated.

the point is developing an emulator is alot of time, nintendo cant use dolphin, they need to pay a company to develop an emulator and then lots of games still ahve issues that need dirty patches and so on like n64 emulator on wiiu lol.

almost 99% of the gc games people want are nintendo owned and they have the source code so they can just port the entire game engine without much trouble and then chage everything they want from autosaving and no even asking for memory cards and such, and so on and make the games native to switch OS.

i cant see nintendo releasing sunshine hd someday on switch.

 

[Deathscreton]

the point is developing an emulator is alot of time, nintendo cant use dolphin, they need to pay a company to develop an emulator and then lots of games still ahve issues that need dirty patches and so on like n64 emulator on wiiu lol.

You really think Ninty doesn't have a GC emulator stored somewhere? It's literally on the shield.

 

[Tigran]

And I know I've been harping on it.. But people want Ninty to be making emulators left and right.. but ignoring Sony's lack of PS1 classics *or PS2 classics for that part*.

 

[the_randomizer]

You really think Ninty doesn't have a GC emulator stored somewhere? It's literally on the shield.

And the Shield has a more powerful CPU and clock speed than the Switch, so, uh, Switch would struggle with GC emulation.

 

[Deathscreton]

And the Shield has a more powerful CPU and clock speed than the Switch, so, uh, Switch would struggle with GC emulation.

Same CPU/GPU, just underclocked with locked cores. Not somethign that could stop the people who literally put the device together. And you act like they can't take the GC emulator and scale it back in performance or make optimizations. Were you around when the Devs for Dolphin teased the emulator running in linux on a Switch at 25-30 FPS? Without platform specific customizations and the overhead of running a complete OS?

Yeah, that argument is outdated.

 

[the_randomizer]

Same CPU/GPU, just underclocked with locked cores. Not somethign that could stop the people who literally put the device together. And you act like they can't take the GC emulator and scale it back in performance or make optimizations. Were you around when the Devs for Dolphin teased the emulator running in linux on a Switch at 25-30 FPS? Without platform specific customizations and the overhead of running a complete OS?

Yeah, that argument is outdated.

Can you imagine the battery life of running such a complex emulator on Switch? Overclocking the CPU would kill battery life too, and more heat, yeah, that's fun.

 

[The3rdknuckles]

I think they will be starting off with 20 NES game free when online service starts in September. Then regularly releasing after that.

 

[Deathscreton]

Can you imagine the battery life of running such a complex emulator on Switch? Overclocking the CPU would kill battery life too, and more heat, yeah, that's fun.

Oh, so we're discussing battery life and heat now? Not the possibility of getting GC games to run on the device? Okay.

Battery is moot. The device only has a 3 hour timespan when running heavy native games. An emulator probably wouldnt' be that much more stressful. Not to mention that most people who want more battery life would probably carry a bank around with them.

We wouldn't have to overclock anything if we were to use something like Dolphin natively. What we have available was probably enough. Even if we DID overclock the CPU, the heat put out probably wouldn't' be that terrible. It barely touches 70c now as is, that's with the shitty factory paste and fan they're using. Upgrade those and you're liable to see more promising results.

 

[the_randomizer]

Oh, so we're discussing battery life and heat now? Not the possibility of getting GC games to run on the device? Okay.

Battery is moot. The device only has a 3 hour timespan when running heavy native games. An emulator probably wouldnt' be that much more stressful. Not to mention that most people who want more battery life would probably carry a bank around with them.

We wouldn't have to overclock anything if we were to use something like Dolphin natively. What we have available was probably enough. Even if we DID overclock the CPU, the heat put out probably wouldn't' be that terrible. It barely touches 70c now as is, that's with the shitty factory paste and fan they're using. Upgrade those and you're liable to see more promising results.

Not everyone has the skill or patience to redo the thermal paste, fans, etc, so that's moot.

 

[Tigran]

Oh, so we're discussing battery life and heat now? Not the possibility of getting GC games to run on the device? Okay.

Battery is moot. The device only has a 3 hour timespan when running heavy native games. An emulator probably wouldnt' be that much more stressful. Not to mention that most people who want more battery life would probably carry a bank around with them.

We wouldn't have to overclock anything if we were to use something like Dolphin natively. What we have available was probably enough. Even if we DID overclock the CPU, the heat put out probably wouldn't' be that terrible. It barely touches 70c now as is, that's with the shitty factory paste and fan they're using. Upgrade those and you're liable to see more promising results.

If you notice, he likes moving the goal posts when someone points out the flaws in his argument.

 

[Deathscreton]

Not everyone has the skill or patience to redo the thermal paste, fans, etc, so that's moot.

Oh, in that case I guess we better scrap CFW developemtn because not everyone has the skill or patience to create software.

Just because you don't want to or can't, doesn't mean facts are suddenly invalidated. Good job cherry picking my argument btw.

 

[pedro702]

You really think Ninty doesn't have a GC emulator stored somewhere? It's literally on the shield.

No it doesnt lol, companys dont ask employers to lose months of work to develop emulators to not use them for years lol.

shield does not use a gc emulator made by nintendo, they payed someone to develop one for them like nintendo does and now pay nintendo rights to release their games on said emulator.

Heck wii,wiiu emulators for Vc titles were all made by third party companys, nintendo doesnt make emulators in house they ask some developing studios i think is M2 that does the emulators for them.

why would nintendo have a random gc emulator done for years and yet pay someone to make their nes,snes,n64 emulators for wiiu? that doesnt make any sence at all.

i think the only times nintendo ever made emulators were for nes mini and snes mini, all virtual console emulators were not made by nintendo at all.

 

[Tigran]

shield does not use a gc emulator made by nintendo, they payed someone to develop one for them like nintendo does and now pay nintendo rights to release their games on said emulator.

More than likely, and of course I could be wrong, Nintendo OWNS the emulator now and pays royalties upon use.

 

[Deathscreton]

No it doesnt lol, companys dont ask employers to lose months of work to develop emulators to not use them for years lol.

shield does not use a gc emulator made by nintendo, they payed someone to develop one for them like nintendo does and now pay nintendo rights to release their games on said emulator.

Heck wii,wiiu emulators for Vc titles were all made by third party companys, nintendo doesnt make emulators in house they ask some developing studios i think is M2 that does the emulators for them.

why would nintendo have a random gc emulator done for years and yet pay someone to make their nes,snes,n64 emulators for wiiu? that doesnt make any sence at all.

i think the only times nintendo ever made emulators were for nes mini and snes mini, all virtual console emulators were not made by nintendo at all.

Not to sound like a reasonable individual here, but do you have any proof, links or sources that Ninty never created a GC emulator? Cause I mean, not having an emulator in public obviously means they don't have one.

 

[pedro702]

Not to sound like a reasonable individual here, but do you have any proof, links or sources that Ninty never created a GC emulator? Cause I mean, not having an emulator in public obviously means they don't have one.

lol do you have any proof that nintendo made a gc emulator?lol

that doesnt make sence so i can say nintendo has made a ps3 emulator without a single proof and just becuase you cant prove they dont have it, makes it real?

like i said it makes no sence at all for them to have a gc emulator and not even 4 years ago paying M2 developing studios to make nes,snes,gba,ds and n64 emulators for them... if they had teams capable of making extremely complex emulators they would have made the simpler ones without a hitch too instead of paying for them on wiiu...

And m2 did a preety good job emulating Ds on wiiu if i do say so myself, i wouldnt be surprised if people start digging on shiled gc emulator and found out it was made by M2 too, since they are the go to guys for nintendo emulators.

 

[Deathscreton]

lol do you have any proof that nintendo made a gc emulator?lol

that doesnt make sence so i can say nintendo has made a ps3 emulator without a single proof and just becuase you cant prove they dont have it, makes it real?

like i said it makes no sence at all for them to have a gc emulator and not even 4 years ago paying M2 developing studios to make nes,snes and n64 emulators for them... if they had teams capable of making extremely complex emulators they would have made the simpler ones without a hitch too instead of paying for them on wiiu...

And m2 did a preety good job emulating Ds on wiiu if i do say so myself, i wouldnt be surprised if people start digging on shiled gc emulator and found out it was made by M2 too, since they are the go to guys for nintendo emulators.

You're right, I don't. But i can say that in confidence because I used common sense. Common sense would dictate that Ninty probably WOULD NOT have a PS3 emulator. What your doing is attempting to shit on my argument by shoving words in my mouth. Fucking hell man. You guys are gonna give me an aneurysm.

 

[pedro702]

Not to sound like a reasonable individual here, but do you have any proof, links or sources that Ninty never created a GC emulator? Cause I mean, not having an emulator in public obviously means they don't have one.

that is another way to do it, buying the emulator made by 3rd partys to use, we never know which deals they actualy make but that is a good possibility too.

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You're right, I don't. But i can say that in confidence because I used common sense. Common sense would dictate that Ninty probably WOULD NOT have a PS3 emulator. What your doing is attempting to shit on my argument by shoving words in my mouth. Fucking hell man. You guys are gonna give me an aneurysm.

so your comon sence is without a single shred of proff that nintendo has made an gc emulator becuase shiled had one and no way at all they ever said it was made by nintendo and nintendo itself never stated they made the gc emulator for the shield either...

heck just datamine the damn emulator it will probably contain the development studio that did it in there and i bet it wasnt nintendo lol.

 

[nWo]

I´m a big Nintendo fan since 1991 and love the NES games, it was my first console. But this time I agree... On every console I have bought a couple of favorite NES games, and c´mon I mean, yes I wanted some NES games on Switch too, but, it´s not so fun to see that they only announce NES games. I´m a little tired of playing NES games like for the 100th time, I got them on many other consoles officially, so Okay it´s a nice addition but even with SNES it´s not a big incentive. N64 games well that would be another story but then again, it´s been a whole year and so, since Switch came out, they already should be so many NES, SNES games out there. Hope in the E3 they give us some good news. Nintendo has been in a very strange position from a far enough time now but I still love the company. Just a bit tired of the classic games being treated like if it was the first time. At this point in time, they should be free to the players who bought them on Wii U or something like that.