Hacking [Release] rxTools - Roxas75 3DS Toolkit [fw 2.0 - 9.2]

[zoogie]

If Roxas can make a whitelist for homebrew, then he can just as easily make a blacklist preventing so-called "legit" .cia installation.

A simple checksum based blacklist would suffice, there's only two dozen or so "legit" .cia files available.

What if people legitimately own those games? They're indistinguishable from the legit warez versions.

 

[cearp]

If Roxas can make a whitelist for homebrew, then he can just as easily make a blacklist preventing so-called "legit" .cia installation.
A simple checksum based blacklist would suffice, there's only two dozen or so "legit" .cia files available.

i think legit cia files should be allowed, they don't require signature patches, so, apart from the preinstalled content, they will have to be from my own content.
so, it can't be used for piracy like that, since if i make a legit cia from my eshop purchase on the same 3ds, signature patches won't be needed.
no matter what, i think we should be able to install our own content (preinstalled or not) - signatures do not need to be patched

 

[MrJason005]

I've been able to dig up these legit CIAs:

 

[Fishaman P]

Come on, guys. This is about rxTools development.
Do we really need yet another thread derailed by piracy talk? Really?

 

[Suiginou]

Come on, guys. This is about rxTools development.
Do we really need yet another thread derailed by piracy talk? Really?

I think at this point, you might as well mark piracy derails as a gbatemp meme.

 

[Xenon Hacks]

Come on, guys. This is about rxTools development.
Do we really need yet another thread derailed by piracy talk? Really?

At the end of the day its what we all care about even if we won't say so in a public way

 

[MrJason005]

At the end of the day its what we all care about even if we won't say so in a public way

we confess

 

[Tjessx]

If Roxas can make a whitelist for homebrew, then he can just as easily make a blacklist preventing so-called "legit" .cia installation.

A simple checksum based blacklist would suffice, there's only two dozen or so "legit" .cia files available.

This looks like a solid idea. But therefor he needs to make/edit his own cia indtaller, which isn't too hard, but he got lots to do already.

What if people legitimately own those games? They're indistinguishable from the legit warez versions.

Roxas:
A good idea to fix this problem would be implementing the blacklist for the legitt cia's in the cia installer, not allowing other cia installers, and givong the signatur patches an on/off switch(in rxtools menu or even betrer in the home menu by pressing select if possible)

 

[zoogie]

We are now in the Golden Age of homebrew DRM. These are great times we live in.

 

[capito27]

I've been able to dig up these legit CIAs:

I feel like I saw this list somewhere, but i don't really know where .




Also, if I may add something to the legit CIA discussion, I don't even think there is any reasonable way for Roxas to sucessfully prevent legit CIA usage and/or its installation.

Since we can safely assume that BRM (or any CIA installer) will work in RxMode, since BRM can install legit CIAs and that you can run legit CIAs from sysnand without any signature patching, it would be useless to blacklist legit cia execution.
(And you could also think about the fact that people who bought 3DS with bundled games would be alienated in RxMode if the game signatures are blacklisted).

(those 2 first points can be easily countered).

Take into account a last detail : RxTools, as of right now, is only for O3DS and 2DS. O3DS users that are able to run RxTools, are also able to install legit CIAs without any additional cost (PBT-CFW, yada, yada), so it would be pointless to prevent legit CIA installation in RxMode, as it could be installed beforehand on O3DS systems, which are the majority.

As for the procedure to do so : one would restore a 9.2 [or any 7.0+ backup] sysnand backup, downgrade to 4.5 with Gatewait, install all CIA's with PBT, setup a 9.6 emunand with RxTools, restore the 9.2 sysnand backup, and inject the ticket from the 9.6 emunand to the 9.2[or 7.0+] sysnand, thus making all the legit CIAs available on 9.2 [or 7.0+] sysnand and emunand without any help from rxMode (but this is no place for me to discus any further the procedure)


Also, for people thinking this is totally off topic, I was making a point that preventing legit CIA's installation would be pointless, since there is a free (maybe tedious, but free non the less) way around that limitation for most users of RxTools.

 

[Tjessx]

Also, for people thinking this is totally off topic, I was making a point that preventing legit CIA's installation would be pointless, since there is a free (maybe tedious, but free non the less) way around that limitation for most users of RxTools.

Would not be pointless,
Roxas wants a tool that doesn't enable piracy.
And it is pretty do-able to disable any CIA installer except the one rxTools uses and disallow any non-homebrew CIA's.
You're right, anyone that can use rxTools could do hours of work to get a few games running, if they want to do that they can, but it won't be possible to install them though rxTools.

 

[Stoned]

Hey Roxas.
Hey Roxas.
when can we expect an update ?

 

[duke_srg]

Hey Roxas.
Hey Roxas.
when can we expect an update ?

Don't touch him!
Don't touch him!

 

[froggestspirit]

So I can this to pirate Sly Cooper? my favorite game, and I always want 2 play 3D mode it. On handheld :o

 

[Subtle Demise]

Guys, please stop with all this blocking cia nonsense. It's not anybody's job to protect Nintendo IP except Nintendo.

We are now in the Golden Age of homebrew DRM. These are great times we live in.

Hey man, don't you know that you don't actually own that overpriced, underpowered, and outdated handheld DRM box that Nintendo rented out to you at way above cost? You're lucky Nintendo even lets you rent any $40 games for their system! Isn't face raiders and AR games enough for you entitled bastards!?

 

[ChrisX930]

Is it possible to use the same mset for rxtools AND Palantine CFW?
Don't want to be online to use the rxtools or have to install the mset for the other CFW before I can start the other CFW

 

[piratesephiroth]

Is it possible to use the same mset for rxtools AND Palantine CFW?
Don't want to be online to use the rxtools or have to install the mset for the other CFW before I can start the other CFW

I think it would be possible, but Roxas75 decided to use a different encryption so its not compatible.

All that is left to ask is WHY... (implying anyone capable of breaking Gateway's launcher apart can't decrypt his... )

 

[ChrisX930]

I think it would be possible, but Roxas75 decided to use a different encryption so its not compatible.

All that is left to ask is WHY... (implying anyone caspable of decrypting Gateway's launcher can't decrypt his)

this is weird x_X

 

[Suiginou]

All that is left to ask is WHY... (implying anyone capable of breaking Gateway's launcher apart can't decrypt his... )

Because the ones capable of breaking the GW launcher decryption are all the same people who support the anti-piracy crusade. As long as the skill stays holed up in the new age DRM faction, that's already sufficient effort to prevent the attack of reverse engineers.

 

[dela]

Because the ones capable of breaking the GW launcher decryption are all the same people who support the anti-piracy crusade. As long as the skill stays holed up in the new age DRM faction, that's already sufficient effort to prevent the attack of reverse engineers.

I honestly think that anyone who is able to pierce the gateway then knock to make cash on the gateway, not to make the system leaked to pierce the gateway itself. In the end it is only a matter of business; I do not think this hacker ethic (because then it is not pure ethical hackers, it is based on knowledge-melting; and here there is a tube of propagete)
italia version
sinceramente penso che chi sia in grado di bucare la gateway poi bussi a fare cassa alla gateway, per non fare trapelare il sistema per bucare la gateway stessa. Alla fine è solo questione di affari; io non credo a questa etica hacker(perchè poi non è pure etica hacker, essa si base sulla diffusione della conoscenza; e qui di diffondere non c'è un tubo)