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Release of the Mueller report is imminent, AG Barr has in-hand, judiciary committees being briefed

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I never cared about the collusion report because I always thought if there was actually anything that led to actual collusion, they wouldn't have waited to immediately drop the bomb on poor Dotard. No collusion? Big deal. Doesn't change the fact that he's a misogynistic, narcissistic, unintelligent, complete loser of a person, and worst "President" in history. Nor does it excuse all of his non-collusion related crimes, compulsive lying, and spreading of hatred.

tl;dr No collusion = still a dotard
 
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No it isn’t. It’s in the dossier itself that she paid for it.
Yes, after Trump's Republican primary challengers paid for it first. It's called opposition research, and it happens in literally every election. So perhaps I'm just failing to see your point. Ultimately nobody used the dossier's claims against him during the campaign.
 
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All this build up and media attention only to turn out inconclusive.

This is even better than the timeline where DT trolls us into thinking he's hiding something only to turn out to be an angel.
 

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This is even better than the timeline where DT trolls us into thinking he's hiding something only to turn out to be an angel.
So the continued possibility that the president is a criminal is better than knowing he's for sure innocent? I'd have to disagree. The space we're in now is quite nebulous.
 
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Imagine if Trump is holding onto evidence that would exonerate him and indict Clinton this whole time, and he's just waiting for the 2020 election to show it.
 

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Yes, after Trump's Republican primary challengers paid for it first. It's called opposition research, and it happens in literally every election. So perhaps I'm just failing to see your point. Ultimately nobody used the dossier's claims against him during the campaign.
It actually original came from 2015 from an internal document of the Hillary Clinton campaign that a guy name Pete Brodnitz to Hillary Clinton’s consultant team. That a polling data was saying that with the information that got out that she was colluding with Russians with the Uranium deal, it would damaged her reputation for presidency. So she as a strategy logged it on her opponent Trump that he’s an agent of Putin as a distraction.

John Possesta came up with the conspiracy theory in 2015. We know this from leaked documents. Actual evidence. This is why I didn’t believe this conspiracy theory to begin with. And was calling nonsense for months.

And still to this day they are not allowed to look at the DNC servers. How is this possible that they were allowed to investigate Trump but not allowed to investigate Hillary’s servers. This is corruption and they are avoiding talking about it.

And no they illegally spied on Trump, and mislead the fisa courts, it’s not just a simple opposition research.
 
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Imagine if Trump is holding onto evidence that would exonerate him and indict Clinton this whole time, and he's just waiting for the 2020 election to show it.
The idea of Trump withholding that type of evidence is hilarious. He would've Tweeted it out the moment he got his hands on it.

It actually original came from 2015 from an internal document of the Hillary Clinton campaign that a guy name Pete Brodnitz to Hillary Clinton’s consultant team.
Perfect example of a conspiracy theory easily debunked through the use of Occam's Razor. If she had gone to these lengths to get the Steele dossier, she would've been touting it all over TV as hard evidence. I'm not sure it was even mentioned once during her campaign or the debates, unless it was brought up by Trump or a reporter first.

Again, just use your damn brain. How is Hillary an evil genius while simultaneously ultra-incompetent? The truth, as usual, is somewhere in-between. She's neither of those things. She's a slightly left-leaning corporate bureaucrat who's bad at campaigning. Still would've made a better president than Trump, because the status quo would easily be preferable to putting toddlers in detention centers where they get sexually assaulted.
 
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The idea of Trump withholding that type of evidence is hilarious. He would've Tweeted it out the moment he got his hands on it.


Perfect example of a conspiracy theory easily debunked through the use of Occam's Razor. If she had gone to these lengths to get the Steele dossier, she would've been touting it all over TV as hard evidence. I'm not sure it was even mentioned once during her campaign or the debates, unless it was brought up by Trump or a reporter first.

Again, just use your damn brain. How is Hillary an evil genius while simultaneously ultra-incompetent? The truth, as usual, is somewhere in-between. She's neither of those things. She's a slightly left-leaning corporate bureaucrat who's bad at campaigning. Still would've made a better president than Trump, because the status quo would easily be preferable to putting toddlers in detention centers where they get sexually assaulted.
There is actual evidence of this. Are you really telling me to use my brain when I’ve been calling the Russia investigation bullshit for months and you’ve been denying it.

Here is John Podesta email were the Russia Trump conspiracy theory started from WikiLeaks.

”Best approach is to slaughter Donald for his bromance with Putin, but not go too far betting on Putin re Syria.”

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25651

 

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Lol, this says conservatives funded Fusion GPS, which was the entire basis for the dossier.

WashingtonExaminer said:
The Washington Free Beacon did not bankroll the Steele dossier, a highly dubious work of opposition research alleging the Russians have compromising personal and financial information on Donald Trump.

Rather, the conservative newsroom hired the same research firm that later created it, Fusion GPS, in 2016 to investigate Trump and other Republican candidates during the GOP primaries.

After Trump had won the nomination, the Free Beacon dropped the project. It was at that point that Democratic operatives swooped in, bringing along with them former British spy Christopher Steele.

In other words, they didn't directly fund Christopher Steele, but they did fund the entire overarching basis for his dossier. Using double-speak doesn't change that fact. The NYTimes got their facts correct on this story as well:

NYTimes said:
WASHINGTON — The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired the research firm that months later produced for Democrats the salacious dossier describing ties between Donald J. Trump and the Russian government, the website said on Friday.

The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee had begun paying Fusion GPS in April for research that eventually became the basis for the dossier.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html
 

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Lol, this says conservatives funded Fusion GPS, which was the entire basis for the dossier.



In other words, they didn't directly fund Christopher Steele, but they did fund the entire overarching basis for his dossier. Using double-speak doesn't change that fact. The NYTimes got their facts correct on this story as well:


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html
So your admitting Hillary and the DNC paid for the salacious dossier and is involved in this. To spread false information about Trump. According to the article you linked. Which doesn’t look good for her. So she was doing corrupt things, to unfairly win the election.

Conservative hired for opposition research which isn’t a crime. And it mentions he stopped research. Hillary paid for a salacious document, which was used to mislead the fisa courts knowing the information is false. That is a crime.
 

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So your admitting Hillary and the DNC paid for the salacious dossier and is involved in this. To spread false information about Trump. According to the article you linked. Which doesn’t look good for her. So she was doing corrupt things, to unfairly win the election.
Fucking Christ, READ. Yes, Hillary paid for the dossier. After TRUMP'S REPUBLICAN PRIMARY CHALLENGERS paid for a large part of it.

If her goal was to spread the information, she did a damn poor job of it, because again, she never brought it up once during the campaign or debates.

Regardless, paying for opposition research is not illegal, for either side, as long as it's disclosed and handled properly. You're grasping at straws.
 

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Fucking Christ, READ. Yes, Hillary paid for the dossier. After TRUMP'S REPUBLICAN PRIMARY CHALLENGERS paid for a large part of it.

If her goal was to spread the information, she did a damn poor job of it, because again, she never brought it up once during the campaign or debates.

Regardless, paying for opposition research is not illegal, for either side, as long as it's disclosed and handled properly. You're grasping at straws.
Why would she if it’s salacious and unverified.

Christopher Steele used Yahoo news, no academic uses yahoo news as a source, and his source links it to himself. “Hi I’m Christopher Steele I have sources of collusion, my source comes from me Christopher Steele” Is basically why the dossier is. Read it for yourself, its online, it’s a big joke.

They used it to lie about evidence of collusion to illegally spy on Trump, that was the intention of the salacious document in the first place. That is illegal.
 

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Why would she if it’s salacious and unverified.
It is salacious, and that's likely the reason she didn't use it. Not entirely unverified though, as much as I'm sure you'd love that to be the case.

They used it to lie about evidence of collusion to illegally spy on Trump
Are you a broken record? The Steele dossier had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation. The straws...they're slipping away...
 

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Reminder: this is Barr's summary, not the actual report. Barr is the same man that fixed the Iran-Contra scandal. I'm going to wait until the report comes out.
Yep, and the thing is that it was ultimately Barr's decision whether to pursue charges or not. We have to see the full report in order to grasp just how much evidence Barr is letting slide here.
 
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Shouldn't americans be happy their president isn't a criminal?
What's wrong here, why all the hate? I'd expect none but the mentally ill to prefer someone he doesn't like out of trouble over being governed by a criminal.
 

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Shouldn't americans be happy their president isn't a criminal?
What's wrong here, why all the hate? I'd expect none but the mentally ill to prefer someone he doesn't like out of trouble over being governed by a criminal.
the answer is as simple as this - these people hoped that he would be found guilty and then impeached, and america would get itself a new president.
 
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