Release of the Mueller report is imminent, AG Barr has in-hand, judiciary committees being briefed

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  1. Xzi
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    Certainly not all modern Republicans are neocons, and for all intents and purposes, neoliberals are basically the same thing (capitalist gain > human lives). It's hard to relate to everybody else when you are born rich and never have to put an honest day's work in in your entire life.
     
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    You would probably garner more support if you didn't characterise your ideological enemies as the Legion of Doom from Super Friends. As much as you'd like to simplify things, life isn't an episode of a saturday morning cartoon. You may find this revelation shocking, but liberals and conservatives want the same thing - to improve the country. They simply gave different ideas on how to get there, which is the crux of the issue. You don't see me walking around saying that the Democratic platform priorities consist of stealing money and killing babies, do you?
     
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    Nah, the Legion of Doom are far more hands-on than neocons and neoliberals would ever be. :D

    Once upon a time maybe. When they're making massive cuts to medicare, social security, infrastructure and etc, it sure doesn't feel as though conservatives are trying to improve the country. Especially while they simultaneously increase spending elsewhere and end up hiking the national debt up regardless.
     
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    The US has supported Saudi Arabia financially and politically for a very long time. The murder of Jamal Khashoggi should've been a definitive end to that. Regardless, both Republicans and Democrats agreed to end support for the war in Yemen, which is how the bill made it to Trump's desk in the first place. He's unilaterally decided that we're going to continue supporting that war.
     
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    I mean, ideally Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security would be eliminated altogether, but that's besides the point. You see one way to prosperity, they see another.
     
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    Nice dodge.
     
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    Yes, I see children and veterans starving to death in one of the richest nations on Earth as a problem, they see more money diverted to corporate welfare as a positive thing. We're just going in circles now.

    It wasn't a dodge, we aren't in that war directly. We only support it via Saudi Arabia.

    It's only in the last couple years that the American public at large has seen evidence of what shitty people the Saudi royals are. Trump is the sole person in government who continues to ignore it because they have money. Whataboutism doesn't change that fact.
     
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    Don't forget - turning Libya into a failed state was actually a good thing.
     
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    Not putting boots on the ground and getting us involved in another endless war was a good thing. All we did was help with some drones. Libya was always going to fail or succeed on its own merits from there, and it's certainly not easy to recover from a dictator figure ruling your country.
     
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    You know that there's actually something incredibly wrong with you, right?
     
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    Yeah, I don't listen to the essential commands. :rolleyes:

    "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." - Donald Trump, 2018

    “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” - George Orwell's 1984

    Edit: though I will admit I was wrong, I didn't realize we had briefly entered Libya with US troops as part of a larger UN effort. None the less it was obviously a short commitment on our part, while we remain in countries such as Afghanistan and Iraq to this day.

    Edit2: I really wish people wouldn't derail threads so hard, though I'm certainly guilty of playing into it. I'll likely be forced into making a new thread now if there's any more news relevant to the Mueller report. Too much clutter.
     
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    Not much more can be said about this report, when sides are literally reading the opposite of what it says.
    I never realized that you were so... right wing, for the lack of a better term.
    I don't see how repeatedly doing trickle down, which simply doesn't work, and cutting programs that people need will really help anyone to prosperity besides the rich.

    No, ideally, we would update our programs to be more efficient like every other 1st world country.
     
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    Why is it always such a surprise that some people lean more to the right?
     
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    True, and there's always that segment of the population which will gladly stay ignorant of the report's contents. That's why I'm glad subpoenas are starting to fly for people mentioned in the Mueller report, though. Some people need to hear things said on TV before they actually sink in.
     
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    "Trickle down" is a silly term invented by the left-wing to make fun of supply-side economic models. The principle works perfectly fine in practice, I don't know why people continuously repeat the myth that they don't.
     
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    Holy shit you can't be serious. Or if you are, I hope you live in Kansas so that you experience the effects of the horseshit economic theory you support first-hand.
     
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    There is one fact in the Mueller Report, No American Charged with Collusion. What people are debating on is Obstruction of Justice.

    So what are they going to impeach Trump on? Obstructing a Crime he Never committed? This is getting into desperate territory now. They never cared if he committed a Collusion Crime. They just want to use whatever they can to get him out of office.



    They can go try but there is 2 stages. To vote for Impeachment (doesn't mean you'll get rid of Trump yet). And has to go through Votes in the Republican Controlled Senate. Good Luck with that. Pushing for Impeachment especially when Trump didn't Collude is only going to empower Republicans to fight back harder. Clinton got a boost in support when he was impeached, even though he lied. And you can be sure Trump will get a boost with no Collusion Crime charged.


    And whats impeachment going to do? What do people wish to accomplish? Trump is almost done, he has a year and a half left. Do people really love Mike Pence that much? Nothing is going to change. Your only going to empower Republicans. People are so confident that they'll beat Trump in 2020 so why not just beat him then?
     
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    Obstruction of justice is a crime, even with no other crime present. For example, you could talk to/influence a witness of a crime that you had nothing to do with. That could be classified as either obstruction of justice or witness tampering. There's no prerequisite that another crime be committed to charge you with either of those things.

    It also begs the question: if Trump actually believed he was innocent, why try to interfere with parts of the investigation at all?
     
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    I just didn't expect him to be so, specifically. As in, it didn't even crossed my mind.

    It is doing so well, that everyone has health coverage. Oh, wait.

    Everything else aside including your opinion of them being completely off base, justice is what they wish to accomplish.
     
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