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It was until America bastardised the English language :rofl2:



Totally agree Red is by far the best character in the TV show Wentworth Prison.

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If you say bastardized as in being different from how people spoke in the past this also applies to Europe. Language, words and accents changes over time.

Neither Americans nor Europeans today sounds like how spoke in the past.

This excellent video shows how the accent in London changed over time. If you want to know how Americans and Europeans from Great Britain sounded like then listen to the accent in late 1700's. You can hear how Europeans has some similarities to how Americans sound today. And of course since it's the late 1700's when Great Britain controlled America they both sounded the same.

The received pronunciation in London didn't come until after America gained their independence in 1776. The way Americans enunciate the R sound is the way the British use to say it. So that part of the American accent is way older then the British accent. Recieved pronunciation came because the rich class wanted to sound different from the lower class. Over time it trickled down to the lower class. But since language changes even today Received Pronunciation is being dropped in some parts of Europe.

And just like accent changes the words people uses also changes over time. Neither Americans today or Europeans sound like their past ancestors. And this applies to any other parts of Europe the way they spoke changed over time too.

 
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If you say bastardized as in being different from how people spoke in the past this also applies to Europe. Language, words and accents changes over time.

Neither Americans nor Europeans today sounds like how spoke in the past.

This excellent video shows how the accent in London changed over time. If you want to know how Americans and Europeans from Great Britain sounded like then listen to the accent in late 1700's. You can here how Europeans has some similarities to how Americans sound today. And of course since it's the late 1700's when Great Britain controlled America they both sounded the same.

The received pronunciation in London didn't come until after America gained their independence in 1776. The way Americans enunciate the R sound is the way the British use to say it. So that part of the American accent is way older then the British accent. Recieved pronunciation came because the rich class wanted to sound different from the lower class. Over time it trickled down to the lower class. But since language changes even today Received Pronunciation is being dropped in some parts of Europe.

And just like accent changes the words people uses also changes over time. Neither Americans today or Europeans sound like their past ancestors. And this applies to any other parts of Europe the way they spoke changed over time too.


My comment was about how Americans at some point decided to dumd down how things are spelt like the following

English

colour, flavour, behaviour, harbour, honour, humour, labour, neighbour, rumour, splendour

American English

color, flavor, behavior, harbor, honor, humor, labor, neighbor, rumor, splendor

And so on.
 
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My comment was about how Americans at some point decided to dumd down how things are spelt like the following

English

colour, flavour, behaviour, harbour, honour, humour, labour, neighbour, rumour, splendour

American English

color, flavor, behavior, harbor, honor, humor, labor, neighbor, rumor, splendor

And so on.


We took a lesson from the Germans and made it more efficient

col-our, flav-our, behavi-our, harb-our, hon-our, hum-our, lab-our, neighb-our, rum-our, splend-our


If we wanted to bastardize it

Cuhler, flayver, behavier, harber, onner, huemer,layber, nayber, roomer, splendoor

Starting to look like dutch tbh
 
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the british english spelling for it is kilometre tho

I guess Americans are more British than the British with measurements, British did create the imperial system in the first place

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

The best thing German did for language was to eschew making up a new word when you could just as easily string two, three or seventeen existing words together into a compound.

Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft

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If you say bastardized as in being different from how people spoke in the past this also applies to Europe. Language, words and accents changes over time.

Neither Americans nor Europeans today sounds like how spoke in the past.

This excellent video shows how the accent in London changed over time. If you want to know how Americans and Europeans from Great Britain sounded like then listen to the accent in late 1700's. You can hear how Europeans has some similarities to how Americans sound today. And of course since it's the late 1700's when Great Britain controlled America they both sounded the same.

The received pronunciation in London didn't come until after America gained their independence in 1776. The way Americans enunciate the R sound is the way the British use to say it. So that part of the American accent is way older then the British accent. Recieved pronunciation came because the rich class wanted to sound different from the lower class. Over time it trickled down to the lower class. But since language changes even today Received Pronunciation is being dropped in some parts of Europe.

And just like accent changes the words people uses also changes over time. Neither Americans today or Europeans sound like their past ancestors. And this applies to any other parts of Europe the way they spoke changed over time too.



 
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why the fuck is a thread discussing the colour red becoming so political lmao
Uh political? There was no mention of politics at all. All I see is people talking about how language changed. How words spellings changed.

I don't know what world where
Language = Politics?
 

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was just joking my dude
Oh, I didn't catch that. Normally I'm keen on catching when people are shit posting and making jokes as I'm one of those people lol.


My comment was about how Americans at some point decided to dumd down how things are spelt like the following

English

colour, flavour, behaviour, harbour, honour, humour, labour, neighbour, rumour, splendour

American English

color, flavor, behavior, harbor, honor, humor, labor, neighbor, rumor, splendor

And so on.
That'll fall under words changing that I mention.

I think U.S. changed word spellings as an act of rebelling against the British.


English spelling as a whole makes no sense for any country tbh tbf lol lmfao
 

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Oh, I didn't catch that. Normally I'm keen on catching when people are shit posting and making jokes as I'm one of those people lol.






That'll fall under words changing that I mention.

I think U.S. changed word spellings as an act of rebelling against the British.


English spelling as a whole makes no sense for any country tbh tbf lol lmfao


It's more efficient to use contractions and less letters

Like a bit of compression

English pretty much is a conglomerate of all other Languages

And in the end it's technically an extremely distant form of German

Greek,Spanish/Italian, dutch, french, German, swedish speakers, west Europeans etc, generally will find English easier to learn as a second language
 
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It's more efficient to use contractions and less letters

Like a bit of compression

English pretty much is a conglomerate of all other Languages

And in the end it's technically an extremely distant form of German

Greek,Spanish/Italian, dutch, french, German, swedish speakers, west Europeans etc, generally will find English easier to learn as a second language
And just for pronouncing too. Imagine if we pronounce words without any reductions, it'll be like a syllable obstacle course for me.
 
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And just for pronouncing too. Imagine if we pronounce words without any reductions, it'll be like a syllable obstacle course for me.

too, to, two, tue, tu?

chilly, chile, chili

would and wood

hair and hare

knight and night

is it fail or phail?

air or heir

foul and fowl


this is why non native speakers tend to dislike English, its highly dependent of context

blame the latins/greeks/germans/and slavs
 
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