1. Deleted_171835

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  2. Traz

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    both funny and sad...

    sad that they lost their jobs

    funny that they took it out on the companies in public with furious vengeance [​IMG]
     
  3. Pliskron

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    Quit whining and get another job. Pick yourself up and try again. If you fail keep trying. No one will help you in this world so stop bitching and do something.
     
  4. Deleted_171835

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    There's more without expletives by two other people.

    Paul Bettner
    Former Company: Ensemble Studios
    Current Company: Newtoy

    Oh, Ensemble, you're likely thinking, he'll have a few choice words to say about Microsoft, I'm sure. We'd assumed the same thing before Paul Bettner, former Ensemble manager, took the stage. After all, the entire studio was "let go" by Microsoft a few short weeks before their last project, Halo Wars, shipped to retail. That's got to be enough to engender some blinding rage towards the tech industry juggernaut, right?

    Not quite. Bettner's speech was an unswervingly honest look at how overwork was responsible for dismantling the once great Ensemble team -- an outfit responsible for developing the hit Age of Empires series, among others.

    "I don't remember when the word 'crunch' was first heard around the hallways of Ensemble," Bettner explained. "Every game seemed to take a little bit more than the last, a little more crunch, a little more sacrifice. I watched this happen and I did almost nothing to stop it. As an employee, I didn't take a stand, I just kept hoping for that next high. Later on, as a manager, I peddled the drug just like everyone else. My ex-Ensemble co-workers in the audience, I ask for your forgiveness. I know that I could've done much, much more."

    According to Bettner, Microsoft closed Ensemble because the studio changed as it further institutionalized "crunching." Morale was impossibly low, leading to talks of a mass exodus once Halo Wars shipped. As we all know, this action wasn't necessary -- quality began to slip, development costs began to skyrocket and Microsoft made the only fiscally responsible decision it could: It shut down the developer.

    "The reality is that every single game we shipped took twice as long as we said it would take, and took twice as much to make it," Bettner recounted. "Our reliance on crunch, on mandatory unpaid overtime became a norm at Ensemble. Our game quality suffered."

    An overzealous work ethic wasn't just responsible for the closing of Ensemble, it also pushed a number of talented members of the industry to move to less demanding gigs, instead of continuing to sacrifice other aspects of their lives.

    "We kill these people. They join us because they love games so desperately, that they'd be doing this even if we didn't give them a paycheck. We destroy these precious artists. We destroy their families, we sacrifice their youth, and so they leave, and they take their experience with them."

    Bettner's philosophy for his new company, Newtoy, has absorbed the hard-learned lessons from his time at Ensemble. "We don't crunch," he vowed. "We just don't." It's a strategy that's panning out quite well, as Newtoy's debut project, Words with Friends, is the most successful game on the iPhone. Like, ever.

    "I believe that we're our most creative when we're sitting on a porch swing on a lazy Sunday afternoon, well-rested and day dreaming about what we're going to do tomorrow," Bettner said. "I believe that our brilliant sparks of inspiration come not at the end of a 15-hour work marathon, but rather, in the shower after a good night's sleep.

    "I love this industry. I love making games with all of you. I love it so much, that I'm willing to tear myself away from my computer and go home to my family. Not only because this is what's truly most important to me -- even when that addict inside me is telling me to put just a few more hours into it; just finish this feature or fix that last bug -- but also because I know, deep down, that striving for that high quality of life is how I'll make the best games, too.

    "Who's with me?"

    Apparently, everyone! Bettner's fiery, self-effacing speech was received with a thunderous standing ovation.

    Chris Hecker
    Former Company: EA Maxis
    Current Company: n/a

    "My disclaimer this time is this," Hecker said as he began his presentation, "I'm going to try and say something slightly subtle here in my rant. So, if you're going to cover this for your blog or your news site, please try and understand that subtle thing and talk about that -- not any individual quote you might be able to twist out of context."

    Hecker's speech, titled "Please Finish Your Game," was targeted for a completely different audience than the previous panel speakers: independent developers -- particularly ones that participate in speed-developing events like the annual Indie Game Jam. While these types of events do a great deal to send waves of inspiration through the indie development community, Hecker worries that a fascination with quick-and-dirty games might ultimately hurt the industry.

    It's a actually a badge of honor to complete games very quickly in the indie games community," Hecker observed. "These days, the amount of development time is front and center when you present a game -- how long I took. And I'm actually starting to worry about this."

    Hecker presented an illustration of a simple scale and added dozens of quickly-developed indie titles to one side of it. On the other slide, he placed Braid. The scale instantly tipped towards the latter, strengthened by the fact that, according to Hecker, "Braid explored its mechanic to the depth that the mechanic deserved."

    "Braid is not a better game than the Indie Game Jam games because it took three years and the Indie Game Jam games took four days," Hecker said. "I spent six years on a game that didn't explore its fundamental mechanic to its aesthetic conclusions. I would have worked on Spore for longer, to make it the game I think it should have been." ("That is not the quote you want to use on your fucking web site, okay?" Hecker added.)

    Hecker's main point actually applied to developers of every scope and scale: the industry needs more games that introduce a bold new idea and explore that idea to its full potential. The amount of time required to give a game this kind of depth is completely irrelevant.

    "It doesn't matter if you can make a game in two days or one hour or 14 minutes or six years -- it matters that you make the game the game it should be."

    I actually feel sympathetic for them. Losing their job after working at a shitty company for years. That must suck. Then again, get up and move on. Life won't wait for you.
     
  5. junker_man32

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    dear bitch, fuck you
     
  6. Guild McCommunist

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    >Implying people can get jobs in this shit economy.

    My dad's been unemployed for almost a year now and he's searched for a job every day. It's not easy. Mind you, his field is a lot different from video game developing, but it's still hard to get a job here.

    I mean, I wouldn't rant like this, as most of these were necessary shutdowns due to the economy, but I do find it humorous.
     
  7. Depravo

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    Although losing ones job is seldom a good thing this reaction seems more than a little immature and undignified.
     
  8. injected11

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    "It doesn't matter if you can make a game in two days or one hour or 14 minutes or six years -- it matters that you make the game the game it should be."

    Amen.
     
  9. Uncle FEFL

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    Yeah, because people are handing out jobs now.

    I feel sympathy for these people. My mom got laid off of her second job, and my big brother isn't doing shit. I just hope I can find a job flipping burgers or working at a grocery store or something so I can buy my own shit. Then I'd of course help pay for the rent.
     
  10. Atashi

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    That's one reason why it's best to be self-employed. Nobody can fire you, and if you feel like it, you can show up an hour late in your PJ's. [​IMG]

    -Atashi
     
  11. shakirmoledina

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    its more of an ethical thing to fire a person cuz when there are too many it becomes an economical problem esp if the older devs have not got new ideas, they feel the newer,energetic ones should present them
     
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