1. Terminator02

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    After an "external intrusion" on the PlayStation Network, Sony shut down the service (along with Qriocity) late last Wednesday. There's no estimate being shared for its return. This we know. But while there's been some concern that hackers may have gained access to credit card information in the process of attacking PSN, it's reportedly Sony itself that fears being ripped off.

    A user on reddit going by the name chesh420 who claims to be a moderator at website PSX-Scene has speculated upon the reasoning behind Sony taking PSN offline. What it comes down to is a recently-released custom firmware that allegedly allows users to bypass credit card validation, therefore allowing them to use fake card numbers to make PSN purchases.

    According to chesh, Sony is now trying to patch the issue. More importantly, despite fears that PSN users' credit card numbers may be compromised, there's been no indication that such a theft has taken place or that it would even be possible with the hack.

    We can't confirm if any of this is accurate, but the time table offered up (Rebug became available on March 31) does make the explanation a possibility. Of course, it would be a real PR headache if legitimate gamers have been unable to access PSN for almost five full days because of an issue like this, not to mention the legitimate purchases developers have been missing out on as a result of the downtime.[/p]
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    Ok, I've seen a bunch of speculation of why people think PSN is down, and I thought I should just post what the community knows in comparison to what Sony is telling everyone. The truth is, there was a new CFW (custom firmware) released known as Rebug (http://rebug.me). It essentially turns a retail console into a dev console (not fully, but gives you a lot of the same options that usually dev's only have access to). Anyway, this new CFW was quickly figured out to give CFW users access to the PSN network again via the dev networks. With a little manipulation of the URL's through a proxy server you could get your hacked console back online. Not that big of a deal, right? Well, it also turns out that some people over at NGU found out that you could provide fake CC# info and the authenticity of the information was never checked as you were on Sony's private developer PSN network (essentially a network that Sony trusted). What happened next was extreme piracy of PSN content. Sony realizing the issue here shut down the network. Now, before you go freaking out about the latest information posted about Kotaku, no ones personal information was accessible via this hack. Not to say they couldn't get it, but no one is admitting to it being available. Anyway, that's the real reason for the PSN downtime. Sony is now rebuilding all of it's PSN servers to be more secure and (hopefully) make sure the CFW users cannot get online anymore.

    Edit #1: To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense.

    1. Rebug was released on 3/31/11.
    2. First guides of how to use the dev network to get back on COD games on 4/3/11. 3. Word of "shady" sites finding a way to pirate PSN content via the dev networks on 4/7/11 (basing this on posts I had to delete on the website). 4. PSN goes down on 4/20/11

    Now, you can believe Sony's PR team which has kept you completely in the dark, or you can see the list of events above and come to your own conclusion. Now, this isn't the first time Sony has fought back against the PS3 modders from getting on PSN. A couple of months ago we had a utility called f*ckPSN that changed the necessary header information that was being sent to Sony to allow modified consoles back online. We were able to use it for about a month. Then came the new TOS, the mass e-mail to PS3 customers, and software update 3.56 and 3.60. So, once again, yes this is all speculation, but it is speculation based on previous actions and known facts.

    Edit #2: Mathieulh just mentioned that he has been in contact with someone that has official access to the SCE devnet servers and it was posted to them today that only 3.60+ debug firmwares will be allowed on the dev network anymore. All earlier versions will be cut. If you want to retain your access you need to contact Sony and upgrade to 3.60 debug firmware.
     
  2. Nujui

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    When did that happen? I've never seen any cfw that allows fake credit card numbers.
     
  3. Terminator02

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    did you read the spoiler?
     
  4. DSGamer64

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    Why would you use a fake credit card via a CFW when Sony's download service is fricking slower then a snail in molasses.
     
  5. Pyrmon

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    To get free stuff from PSN?
     
  6. Guild McCommunist

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    So their source is some moderator on some internet forum making a few guesses?

    I should get raulpica to start making speculations on the next Nintendo console and get GBAtemp some popularity!
     
  7. Terminator02

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    you've never heard of reddit before?

    edit: derp psx-scene*

    and it's not like he's pulling stuff out of his ass, read the post
     
  8. Nujui

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    Yeah, I did, sorry.
     
  9. DeathStrudel

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    He replied before you even asked [​IMG]

    "To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense."
     
  10. chyyran

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    First,
    Theft=/=Piracy.

    Second, Sony fail.

    Third,
    Why would a Dev channel require a credit card number?
     
  11. Terminator02

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    it doesn't, that's the point
     
  12. ShadowSoldier

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    I say we all take this as a grain of salt until Sony itself says something.

    For Sony's sake, they better say what happened after it's all fixed, otherwise, a lot of people won't be going online again with their console in fear of privacy being leaked...
     
  13. VashTS

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    there was a reason i never went to rebug, besides people losing all their hdd data. sounds like sony may be able to go after individuals and get them for credit card fraud. this is all my guess, and i doubt they will, but i wouldn't be surprised if it happened. take it as it is, either stay on cfw and enjoy offline homebrew or update and go legit and play online.

    i don't ever take advantage of crazy ass hacks especially when it involves using false information that is straight up crime, i just want to be able to install what i want on my system. piracy may be a copyright infringement, but i don't see it as a criminal act, its more of a civil act. you don't necessarily go to jail for copyright infringement, you just get hammered with cost.
     
  14. Law

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    You must have shitty Internet or something because I usually hit my max speed (800kb/s) when downloading from PSN.
     
  15. Rydian

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    Why not just shut down purchases while the development happens?

    The only reason I know of would be if they needed to do real-world testing of the servers (well, the real-world servers under simulated input), if they're really taking this chance to rebuild PSN.
     
  16. DJPlace

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    what they should of done is taken down the store not the entire online games... this is just so stupid what was sony trying to get out of this?!? they had better hurry the heck up. if i knew if it was hackers i would of posted a pic of a skull on the you know what that got me warned.
     
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    i believe as rydian said, a small portion could be cut off but they are thinking long term now. This is quite big and bad that soo much could be achieved with a firmware.
    for this reason i can say that sony should stop the firmware and not homebrew or piracy. Theft at its peak.
    The fact that Sony have closed it down for soo long is quite understandable.

    PS - just to give my opinion (whether right or wrong) is that when somebody gets hold of a game/software and gives it to u, its not stealing but that he received it thru legal means (unless it fell off a truck or something but say u bought it or were given for testing etc). But if u go to the seller and fool them with fake money and say that copyright sucks, then that is crossing the line because nothing involved in that is legal or logical.
     
  18. twiztidsinz

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    F^%K YOU
    THAT IS NOT PIRACY! That is FRAUD.
    Most likely of the Credit Card verity.
     
  19. Shabutie78

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    it's not piracy, it's credit card fraud.
    and the exploit was going on for over two weeks before sony pulled the PSN down.
    also, sony already said it was because of a hacker attack.
     
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    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
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