Rampant Piracy May be to Blame for PSN Downtime

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  1. Terminator02
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    After an "external intrusion" on the PlayStation Network, Sony shut down the service (along with Qriocity) late last Wednesday. There's no estimate being shared for its return. This we know. But while there's been some concern that hackers may have gained access to credit card information in the process of attacking PSN, it's reportedly Sony itself that fears being ripped off.

    A user on reddit going by the name chesh420 who claims to be a moderator at website PSX-Scene has speculated upon the reasoning behind Sony taking PSN offline. What it comes down to is a recently-released custom firmware that allegedly allows users to bypass credit card validation, therefore allowing them to use fake card numbers to make PSN purchases.

    According to chesh, Sony is now trying to patch the issue. More importantly, despite fears that PSN users' credit card numbers may be compromised, there's been no indication that such a theft has taken place or that it would even be possible with the hack.

    We can't confirm if any of this is accurate, but the time table offered up (Rebug became available on March 31) does make the explanation a possibility. Of course, it would be a real PR headache if legitimate gamers have been unable to access PSN for almost five full days because of an issue like this, not to mention the legitimate purchases developers have been missing out on as a result of the downtime.[/p]
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  2. Nujui

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    When did that happen? I've never seen any cfw that allows fake credit card numbers.
     
  3. Terminator02
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    did you read the spoiler?
     
  4. DSGamer64

    DSGamer64 Canadian, Eh?

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    Why would you use a fake credit card via a CFW when Sony's download service is fricking slower then a snail in molasses.
     
  5. Pyrmon

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    To get free stuff from PSN?
     
  6. Guild McCommunist

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    So their source is some moderator on some internet forum making a few guesses?

    I should get raulpica to start making speculations on the next Nintendo console and get GBAtemp some popularity!
     
  7. Terminator02
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    you've never heard of reddit before?

    edit: derp psx-scene*

    and it's not like he's pulling stuff out of his ass, read the post
     
  8. Nujui

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  9. DeathStrudel

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    He replied before you even asked [​IMG]

    "To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense."
     
  10. Ron

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    First,
    Theft=/=Piracy.

    Second, Sony fail.

    Third,
    Why would a Dev channel require a credit card number?
     
  11. Terminator02
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    it doesn't, that's the point
     
  12. ShadowSoldier

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    I say we all take this as a grain of salt until Sony itself says something.

    For Sony's sake, they better say what happened after it's all fixed, otherwise, a lot of people won't be going online again with their console in fear of privacy being leaked...
     
  13. VashTS

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    there was a reason i never went to rebug, besides people losing all their hdd data. sounds like sony may be able to go after individuals and get them for credit card fraud. this is all my guess, and i doubt they will, but i wouldn't be surprised if it happened. take it as it is, either stay on cfw and enjoy offline homebrew or update and go legit and play online.

    i don't ever take advantage of crazy ass hacks especially when it involves using false information that is straight up crime, i just want to be able to install what i want on my system. piracy may be a copyright infringement, but i don't see it as a criminal act, its more of a civil act. you don't necessarily go to jail for copyright infringement, you just get hammered with cost.
     
  14. Law

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    You must have shitty Internet or something because I usually hit my max speed (800kb/s) when downloading from PSN.
     
  15. Rydian

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    Why not just shut down purchases while the development happens?

    The only reason I know of would be if they needed to do real-world testing of the servers (well, the real-world servers under simulated input), if they're really taking this chance to rebuild PSN.
     
  16. DJPlace

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    what they should of done is taken down the store not the entire online games... this is just so stupid what was sony trying to get out of this?!? they had better hurry the heck up. if i knew if it was hackers i would of posted a pic of a skull on the you know what that got me warned.
     
  17. shakirmoledina

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    i believe as rydian said, a small portion could be cut off but they are thinking long term now. This is quite big and bad that soo much could be achieved with a firmware.
    for this reason i can say that sony should stop the firmware and not homebrew or piracy. Theft at its peak.
    The fact that Sony have closed it down for soo long is quite understandable.

    PS - just to give my opinion (whether right or wrong) is that when somebody gets hold of a game/software and gives it to u, its not stealing but that he received it thru legal means (unless it fell off a truck or something but say u bought it or were given for testing etc). But if u go to the seller and fool them with fake money and say that copyright sucks, then that is crossing the line because nothing involved in that is legal or logical.
     
  18. twiztidsinz

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    F^%K YOU
    THAT IS NOT PIRACY! That is FRAUD.
    Most likely of the Credit Card verity.
     
  19. Shabutie78

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    it's not piracy, it's credit card fraud.
    and the exploit was going on for over two weeks before sony pulled the PSN down.
    also, sony already said it was because of a hacker attack.
     
  20. TwinRetro

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.