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Wow, I'll have to try that game out later. It looks really neat!DarthNemesis said:
(Thanks for the site, Darth.)
On a related note, I decided to go and learn kana the other day (the recent influx of amazing Japanese games [Dissidia, PS0, TotW RM 2, etc.], and a general desire to learn Japanese prompted me to do so). I'll post the sites that I used, since they may be useful to some people.
Real Kana - This is the site that I used to learn kana. I went through one row at a time, then did a comprehensive review after memorizing a few rows. I recommend keeping the charts handy (right beside your browser window, if possible) so that you can reference them if necessary. Alternatively, you can mouse-over characters you don't recognize.
Hiragana and Katakana Practice - This site is great for practicing. The characters are nice and big.
Katakana Review and Hiragana Review - Also good for practicing.
A few things to note... (In no particular order)
1) To properly understand wasei-eigo, you should learn basic Japanese pronunciation. English words are being reproduced phonetically, so proper pronunciation is important. (More Information, More Information)
Example: "???" (skill) is romanized as "sukiru". The first "u" has very little emphasis, so the pronunciation of the word is closer to "ski-rue". That's definitely easier to identify than "sue-key-rue" (Note). It's even easier if you know that r's are pronounced differently in Japanese than they are in English. In Japanese, they are pronounced like a soft "d", or half way between an "r" and an "l". It's pretty hard to explain. Just imagine a Japanese person trying to pronounce an "L" sound.
2) A small "?" (katakana) or "?" (hiragana) is used to represent double consonants. (More Information)
Example: ??? = appu, ??? = atta
3) In katakana, vowels are elongated by placing "?" after them.
Example: ?? = aa, ?? = uu
4) Characters such as "?" (shi) and "?" (tsu) can be difficult to tell apart, especially when written in small fonts. Try to remember that the little dash marks for "shi" are nearly horizontal, while the little dash marks for "tsu" are nearly vertical. The same applies to "?" (n) and "?" (so).
5) This also has to do with pronunciation, but I think it's important to point out. Japanese words are pronounced syllabically. There are no diphthongs in Japanese.
Example: "koi" is pronounced "coh-ee", not "coy".
6) Practice, practice, practice! You may be able to recognize every character, but you don't want to take more than second or two to identify each one. Remember, you will be reading several characters in a row. You don't want to take a minute to read one word.
Practical Examples:
???????
shi-ru-ba-a-so-o-do
shirubaa soodo
silver sword
??????
pu-ro-je-ku-to
purojekuto
project
??????
fu-ra-s-sha-a
furashaa
flasher
?????????
i-n-kyu-ba-su-ka-a-do
inkyubasu kaado
incubus card
??????????
ba-fo-me-t-to-ju-ni-a
bafometto junia
Baphomet Junior
Hiragana and Katakana Practice - This site is great for practicing. The characters are nice and big.
Katakana Review and Hiragana Review - Also good for practicing.
A few things to note... (In no particular order)
1) To properly understand wasei-eigo, you should learn basic Japanese pronunciation. English words are being reproduced phonetically, so proper pronunciation is important. (More Information, More Information)
Example: "???" (skill) is romanized as "sukiru". The first "u" has very little emphasis, so the pronunciation of the word is closer to "ski-rue". That's definitely easier to identify than "sue-key-rue" (Note). It's even easier if you know that r's are pronounced differently in Japanese than they are in English. In Japanese, they are pronounced like a soft "d", or half way between an "r" and an "l". It's pretty hard to explain. Just imagine a Japanese person trying to pronounce an "L" sound.
2) A small "?" (katakana) or "?" (hiragana) is used to represent double consonants. (More Information)
Example: ??? = appu, ??? = atta
3) In katakana, vowels are elongated by placing "?" after them.
Example: ?? = aa, ?? = uu
4) Characters such as "?" (shi) and "?" (tsu) can be difficult to tell apart, especially when written in small fonts. Try to remember that the little dash marks for "shi" are nearly horizontal, while the little dash marks for "tsu" are nearly vertical. The same applies to "?" (n) and "?" (so).
5) This also has to do with pronunciation, but I think it's important to point out. Japanese words are pronounced syllabically. There are no diphthongs in Japanese.
Example: "koi" is pronounced "coh-ee", not "coy".
6) Practice, practice, practice! You may be able to recognize every character, but you don't want to take more than second or two to identify each one. Remember, you will be reading several characters in a row. You don't want to take a minute to read one word.
Practical Examples:
???????
shi-ru-ba-a-so-o-do
shirubaa soodo
silver sword
??????
pu-ro-je-ku-to
purojekuto
project
??????
fu-ra-s-sha-a
furashaa
flasher
?????????
i-n-kyu-ba-su-ka-a-do
inkyubasu kaado
incubus card
??????????
ba-fo-me-t-to-ju-ni-a
bafometto junia
Baphomet Junior
I notice something strange on GameFAQs.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage....;topic=47371999
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage....;topic=47371999
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Ya, he's doing what everyone else could do. Copying the Wiki themselves and put into the game. Clever i guess.
If he / she did make an English patch for RO, then why not put it up on DL sites? Or post on forums like these? Instead of asking the members for their email?
And oh...
So that must mean he's a member of GBAtemp (or the translation team)? Or just claiming to be one...
And oh...
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So that must mean he's a member of GBAtemp (or the translation team)? Or just claiming to be one...
Anyone can see the wiki.Ein-kun said:So that must mean he's a member of GBAtemp (or the translation team)? Or just claiming to be one...
DarthNemesis said:Anyone can see the wiki.Ein-kun said:So that must mean he's a member of GBAtemp (or the translation team)? Or just claiming to be one...
But not everyone can edit the files in the wiki.
But they can copy it... Yes...
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Discussion for the patch from gameFAQs goes to gameFAQsMissDjax said:grmbl...
I downloaded the patch of this guy at gameFAQs but most of the text is still in japanese for me.
Seems I am the only one with this problem?
Just a heads up.... stealing our work is not a good way to motivate us into finishing the project.
I'm going to post over on GameFAQs, but you all could do a favor and inform people that using our work to release a patch is a VERY bad idea if they want to see the finished project any time soon.
I'm going to post over on GameFAQs, but you all could do a favor and inform people that using our work to release a patch is a VERY bad idea if they want to see the finished project any time soon.
Good work. I would help with some of the minor translations (etc hiragana) but I don't want to mess anything up/don't know how to edit.
If you want me to help translate some weak fry phrases I'll do it. But please continue, keep up the good work.
P.S. is that juda guy ripping your guys' transilations?
If you want me to help translate some weak fry phrases I'll do it. But please continue, keep up the good work.
P.S. is that juda guy ripping your guys' transilations?
I don't really see a problem with it... some people are willing to put up with instability for earlier access, and that's why everything was publicly viewable in the first place.hksmrchan said:
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if you want to test the translation no problem, it is unstable but you can test it
but i'll sugest some thing before.
Do not try do compile the script, theye are very unstable, just compile the menu (msg_menu, town_menu, town_menu sub ....) and the item and skill (item.ldb, skill.ldb and all other file item related) also take the msg_map, it is clean,
With these files you can have a 95 % stable translation and a lot of english
but i'll sugest some thing before.
Do not try do compile the script, theye are very unstable, just compile the menu (msg_menu, town_menu, town_menu sub ....) and the item and skill (item.ldb, skill.ldb and all other file item related) also take the msg_map, it is clean,
With these files you can have a 95 % stable translation and a lot of english
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Because he's sending the rom pre-patched.
It's a double-edged sword in my opinion. On the plus side, there are beta testers now. On the downside, the distributor is in charge of patching said rom, which means if he screws up or something is modified, the translators are liable for blame. It's totally unethical.
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It'd be nice if you only allowed members could see the content of the wiki, stealing the translators work without asking? that guy from gameafags is getting into my nerves.
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