R4/M3: The iPod of DS flashcarts?

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Sep 3, 2007
  1. Harsky
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    Today, a family friend was talking about video games. He bought his daughter a DS lite and what surprised me was that he asked me "so, is there that device for the DS where you can use SD cards or something to play games? That M4 or something?" Yeah, he was one of those "pushing past 50 but kicking ass" type person. Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is, just like iPods are the first thing that comes to mind when people say MP3 player, who thinks the R4/M3 is the first thing that comes to mind when people say DS flashcarts?
     


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    Well, I wont be surprised, it's cheap and it works great...unlike the iPod [​IMG]
     
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    With the way people talk about them on the official Nintendo forums and GameFAQs and such, yes.

    Even my boss, and my boss's boss bought R4s for their sons (after hearing about it from me). And two friends that I work with have M3s.
     
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    To be honest I kind of thought of the CycloEVO.
     
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    It may being showing my inner geek but I often think of the r4/m3 as the avi/mp3 of the flash cart world: works very well for a lot of people but the underlying limitations of the hardware will render it obsolete.
     
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    avi and mp3? Are you mad? When will they be obsolete, lol.
     
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    as soon as the next nintendo handheld comes out. duh.
     
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    If the trend continues Nintendo handhelds are backwards compatible
     
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    ...wtf?

    the next one is probably just gonna be a ds with

    no gba capability

    even SMALLER carts (or discs)

    ds capability

    motion sensing

    built in rumbling

    built in backup ram

    both screens are touch screens

    umm thats all I can think of.
     
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    Nintendo has ever taken compatibility off a system, besides the Gameboy Micro, and they should have learned from hat mistake. Nintendo isn't that stupid - that's something Sony would do.
     
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    DS doesn't play GB/GBC.
    It makes sense to me that they'd remove GBA from the next handheld. The slot would just take up space.
     
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    indeed ^....and virtually every home console. except now with VC on the wii
     
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    They've stated multiple times that the DS isn't part of the Gameboy family.
     
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    if the ds isn't part of the gba family, why does it have gba capability? the gba is right? and if you go inside the ds and actually sand off a little corner nad mod the firmware, it works with gbc. so it's not like it can't.

    so that begs the question:

    why the hell did nintendo make the ds unable to gun gbc games?!
     
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    GBA > GBC.


    Enough said.
     
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    Perhaps because you cannot buy those games anymore?

    And if you wanted to play GBC games, that you already owned, you must of had a GBC console, so you wouldnt need the DS to play them.
     
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    r4 is the first flashcard i've had, so ts the first thing i think of in flashcardXD

    but, i reckon the cyclo ds is cooler, then mabye a 2 gig g6 real is equal to r4 + 2 gig
     
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    I suppose I had better justify my comments, do not get me wrong the r4 is a fine cart and a in quite a few ways worthy of its status.
    r4: kernel not capable of being updated to support SDHC.
    autopatching of roms has failed on more than one occasion.
    Forced 512K saves: most roms are EEPROM 64 or 4. Very few are 4Mbit.

    2 other things though:
    the GBA (not micro) had the GBÂ hardware inside although it was inaccessible in GBA mode. The DS lacks this GBÂ stuff entirely but GBA hardware is inherently part of the DS so I can well imagine a situation like playing GBC games in an SP (although I would hope they have a wrap around thing happening or allow external cartridges with nominal stuff to hold in place..
     
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    I really don't worry too much about "future-proofing" in my flashcarts. They're always coming out with new technology, and since they're so cheap I usually get a new one every year of so anyways.
     
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    Hiratai, allow me to break down your terrible arguement and show you where you fail.


    What zeppo was pointing out is that the DS could have played both GB/GBC and GBA. Not GBC instead of GBA.

    And by the logic of your post:
    [next handheld here] > DS > GBA
    GBA is next in line to be discontinued.


    At the end of it, you're telling us the next handheld should have GBA, yet you contradict this yourself by saying the DS didn't have GBC because it's not part of the "family".

    By the time the next handheld is released, GBA will be as dead as GBC is now.
    And Nintendo can't keep cramming hardware from past handhelds into their new handhelds forever.


    Edit: Sorry for those trying to stay on topic, but his lousy argument was pissing me off.
     

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