PSP2(NGP) to Possess "Rewritable" Game Cards

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  1. Pyrmon
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    Sony decided to drop the UMD format in favor of a flash memory cartridge. By doing so, they can take advantage of flash memory's faster read speeds, but it can apparently also be used to get add-on content on the cartridge. That would mean the new flash memory format is rewritable to some extent.[/p]

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  2. VentusVanitas

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    Unless Sony improve on copy protection, piracy just became easier.
     
  3. DigitalDeviant

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    Thanks pyrmon24 for formatting it correctly, I'll link the old post to this one.
     
  4. DigitalDeviant

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    Do you think this could have exploit possibilities? How would one input modified code into the card in the first place? Just playing devil advocate to spark honest debate.
     
  5. Pyrmon
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    Probably by using the NGP's card reader/writer
    But that's assuming there is something that can be done with these carts
     
  6. VentusVanitas

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    I said that piracy became easier.

    That's if Sony DON'T improve on protection.

    But my actual thoughts are, like hell they won't improve protection.

    It's Sony, what do you expect? They made a system that took four years to be fully hacked.
     
  7. DigitalDeviant

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    It actually only took ~8 months for team Fail0verflow to crack it, LOL.
     
  8. VentusVanitas

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    Not fully though.

    By fully, I mean to the max.

    Homebrew, pirated games, and all of that.
     
  9. DigitalDeviant

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    actually its because of team fail0verflow that we have homebrew and cfw but yeah I understand you mean it took 4 years for jailbreak to come out, but honesly with how broken ps3's security is, fail0verflow could have done it much sooner.
     
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    Sony removed OtherOS months before geohot announced his first hack, let alone released it.
     
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    PSP2 aka NGP is going to have both flashcarts and jailbreaking/CWF eventually. Sony is just asking for a world of hurt.
     
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    They better tighten up their security with this baby, because the road they're trampling down is practically the same the DS traversed for the past 5-6 years, and we all know how rampant piracy is on that platform...
     
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    When the PS3 first came out, I thought it was going to be the first system that'll get hacked, or at least the one that hackers will spend the most time with. I mean, considering how powerful it is and whatnot, somebody would try to utilize it for homebrew as soon as possible.
     
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    homebrew possibilities are great on ps3

    on topic: does anyone one with exploit knowledge know if this is a possible rout to explore? Rydian?
     
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    Like Rydian said, Sony removed Other OS BEFORE geohot announced his progress. It was because the Random Number generator wasn't using actual random numbers that the system was easily hacked. Little (big in this case) mistakes are what makes a system hackable. I love your illogical perspective that ignores the very reason anything is hacked nowadays.
     
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    Yeah it's so broken that it lasted for 4 years... seriously, I don't get your logic... And the PS3 always had homebrew potential, more than all of the other consoles of the same genaration...

    What you wanted to say is that it was because Sony removed Other OS (they were right, since Geohot was already exploring that) that the scene started to make a serious effort... if it wasn't for Geohot initial tentative, the PS3 could still be unhackable.

    Just because it was a ridiculous error by Sony (not using random numbers) doens't means that the console was easy to hack.
     
  17. Schlupi

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    So the games will be written onto legal Flashcards? Sounds weird thinking about it that way...

    I would imagine it couldn't be too hard to crack if we have cracked literally every other type of Playstation encryption...

    I guess this IS a better way to appeal to those who "hated UMDs" AND "Hate DL only games".
     
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    The card will probably have a read-only part with the actual game, and a rewritable part for patches, saves and and DLC. Just like a DS cartridge.
     
  19. EJames2100

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    Anyone else hoping for a flashcart that works on 3DS and PSP2 ? [​IMG]
     
  20. bailli

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    Nobody knows what they are talking about when the topic of the PS3's security system comes up.
    Did anybody here watch the actual presentation at 27C3?!

    Yes, Sony botched the ECSDA algorithm badly, which lead to the private key - but even without that the security system leaves all kind of other holes, big holes. For example the "feared" hypervisor is more or less useless - it should prevent execution of "unwanted" code - but it just presents executable memory pages to anyone who asks...

    And the "homebrew" potential of the PS3 was with OtherOS already there - so no reason to hack it. Just use an linux game/emulator/whatever you want...