PSA: we don't know anything about homebrew or piracy on Switch

Discussion in 'Switch - Hacking & Homebrew' started by mashers, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. Miles54321

    Miles54321 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Dec 16, 2010
    Gateway Headquarters with SonyUSA
    I am generally super patient for hacks/exploits so i'll tell you this guys:

    Here's the guide to waiting for exploits on the Switch:

    1) Find all your favourite games from your past/games you need to Any%/completionist games to take your mind off hack
    2) Play League/PubG/Cuphead or Steam games in the time being
    3) If you have atleast 1 other hacked system try and give yourself challenges like can I beat "X" many games till Hack gets released
    4) GET TOTALLY HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Knowing the Switch the exploit imo will come earlier than people think, my guess currently is Late 2018 - Early 2019 for a full exploit, could be earlier, unlikely to be later but possible!
    Once it gets released there will be so much hype you won't be able to relax!

    Anyone familiar with the 3DS SoonTM days will understand, this hack is coming..........

    Let the hype train commence!
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  2. PossiblyOne

    PossiblyOne Alive For Now

    Oct 28, 2017
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    *hype intensifies*
  3. jaeman109

    jaeman109 GBAtemp Regular

    Feb 15, 2017
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    well im actually on the latest version cause splatoon and siblings BUT IM STILL HYPE
  4. Paiuand

    Paiuand GBAtemp Fan

    Aug 24, 2015
    There is no reason for this to be a sticky thread anymore.
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  5. Nezztor

    Nezztor GBAtemp Regular

    Nov 8, 2016
    Nothing for end users or "piracy" maybe a updated post need it
  6. Stercate79

    Stercate79 GBAtemp Regular

    Oct 25, 2016
    United States
    Why is this thread still sticky?
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  7. thomasnet

    thomasnet GBAtemp Regular

    Mar 6, 2016
    You should probably delete that thread, now that we know about the upcoming HBL...
  8. Edgy_Edge

    Edgy_Edge GBAtemp Regular

    Apr 2, 2017
    This thread is sponsored by Nintendo.
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  9. ByteBite

    ByteBite GBAtemp Regular

    Aug 20, 2013
    Someone needs to create a new megathread with all the recent new information compiled together.

    I would do it myself but have not been following the latest developments closely enough, so I don't qualify.
  10. Noctosphere

    Noctosphere Adoptive father of my kitty named Zelda

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    Dec 30, 2013
    Far away from my kitty named Zelda :'(
    Well, with all the discovery discovered recently, i guess we can unpin this thread, no?
  11. notimp

    notimp GBAtemp Fan

    Sep 18, 2007
    Wrote another diatribe about piracy and its role in the industy. As the initial thread is now closed, I'll post it here:

    What the thread creator in here is describing is "market making" in different regions of the world via piracy. Nintendo did decide to not publish in a certain region of the world, because they saw no market there - then vendors started grey importing devices at high cost, while software was distributed "for free" amongst buyers - and suddenly the companies position changes, and it begins to localize software, because it sees, that their products are well received.

    Piracy never was "stealing" to begin with, because copying isnt stealing - and never was or will be in the history of humankind. Regardless of what the TV spots, or cinema ads will tell you. If it turns out that you can double "property" by clapping your hands, why would anyone "steal" it? ;)

    That sad, a heavy onset of piracy, that is not accounted for in business models, can impact a companies expansion to new regions, or business plans in a major way. So its not all roses.

    But - nowadays all gaming console companies have a healthy margin embedded in their hardware prices as well - and piracy always has a "free pr" angle to it as well.

    This is mostly how it goes. The people who really "need" or "want to" get stuff for free - do it. The rest of the population cant be bothered to look into it. If there is an easier way ("enter credit card number here"), they will do it. If the thing got mass market appeal. With small scenes (different support structures) its different.

    But heres the good news, companies like Nintendo dont go into markets, if interests are limited to smaller "scenes". They are looking for mass appeal.

    That said - in the european union two recent studies surfaced that showed no negative effects of movie piracy on the bottom line of studios whatsoever - despite on big blockbuster titles. Engagement in the brand, or a product in the case of "pirates" was way higher than with normal users, as was the overlap of piracy users and "whales" (people who choose to spend large junks of their desposable incomes in that sector).

    Also - at some point in their lives, people reach a point where "getting to know how stuff works" sounds more complicated to them, than simply "buying that thing and pressing three buttons", so the most significant throughline of what drives their behavior you can draw - is ease of use.

    As long as piracy doesnt become as easy as "buying that thing" - or "installing that thing your friends are talking about", impact isnt very high in general. Under mass market audiences. And the niche markets usually benefit more from free distribution, and people talking about their stuff to expand their audiences, than they would from their innitial limited sales potential (turns out "free" is a great attractor, so is "forbidden").

    That said, if piracy happens too early - in regard to what a company has planned, it can wreck their business models. But with Nintendo now selling you cardboard cutouts, I dont see this happening anytime soon. Piracy is just part of the "new reality" software companies have to deal with. And usually they do.

    They dont clap their hands together over their heads and proclaim "everything is lost". They work with and at the same time against it.

    That said - the negative image, and tangent "fear" is essential for mitigation. So its necessary to keep up, if you dont want widespread use.

    The first time, people realize that they cant play the new Pokemon MMORPG online with their friends, is when 80% of the mass market audience decides "its not worth it".

    Also - Nintendo now makes money by getting most of the revenue on Youtube videos of their product, selling cardboard, building a social media following, and engaging an audience that is very brand loyal - and young. To them you start while you are five years old, and dont leave the brand until your in your fourties. Chances are, that in this time you will spend money on it, if its that important to you. Like in your case - where you pirated, and also bought some products, as one of the earliest adopters in the chinese market.

    You are not the exception. You are the rule.

    That said. Piracy is still bad - mkay?

    (Even if it pries software out of todays walled gardens manufacturers created.)

    It has to be. At least ambivalent.

    Also, in most regions in the world its not so much considered "a crime" than "an actionable offense" - not so much in written law, but in how the law is actioned. if you dont make money with it. If you choose to do the entire force of the entertainment industry and the legal system will be upon you - because you are meddling with industries, not respecting a concept called "intellectual property" (that never existed before the onsets of the 19 hundereds and never was enforced on a state level until much later -), or because you are removing software protections you are not allowed to remove, a concept that didn't exist before the 1990's if I am not mistaken. But its there to allow those industries to prosper. Mostly so no one can just "rip them off". If the "ripping off part" is done by their own consumers, it becomes a little murkier, as far as executing their legal rights goes. F.e. it might not always be in the companies best interest to do so...
    Last edited by notimp, Jan 20, 2018
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  12. SLiV3R

    SLiV3R 3DS Friend Code: 0473-9069-2206

    Jan 9, 2006
    Why is this thread stickied? Its not relevant anymore...
  13. Noctosphere

    Noctosphere Adoptive father of my kitty named Zelda

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    Dec 30, 2013
    Far away from my kitty named Zelda :'(
    I agree with lot of people
    This thread no longer need to be sticky
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  14. notimp

    notimp GBAtemp Fan

    Sep 18, 2007
    Probably as a mission statement. Probably to prevent people from hitting up others to get "help" with piracy related questions.
  15. Bladexdsl

    Bladexdsl ZOMG my's over 9000!!!

    Nov 17, 2008
    this thread overdue for a name change...
  16. the_randomizer

    the_randomizer The Temp's official fox whisperer

    Apr 29, 2011
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    Dr. Wahwee's castle
    Then tag a mod so they can un-sticky it?