Sony revealed in a post today that the PS5 will be backward compatible with "the overwhelming majority" of PS4 games; meaning over 4000 titles. Some of these will benefit from the PS5's Game Boost feature which could improve the original game with higher or smoother frame rate. The company also confirmed the compatibility of the PlayStation VR headset and PS VR games which will require, in addition to the headset, a PS camera (sold separately from PS5 console) and a PS camera adaptor (no purchase required).

However, the console maker also mentioned limitations regarding this backward compatibility. For one, the post mentions that some functionalities available on the PS4 might not be available on the PS5. Additionally, Sony writes that some PS4 games "may exhibit errors or unexpected behavior when played on PS5 consoles". The company did not clarify which games will be affected by those issues nor what these issues are specifically.

Moreover, Sony did list 10 games which will only be playable on the PS4 and not on its next-gen console. These games will feature a ‘Playable on: PS4 only’ tag on the PlayStation Store. You can find a list of those PS4-only games below:

• DWVR
• Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
• TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
• Just Deal With It!
• Shadow Complex Remastered
• Robinson: The Journey
• We Sing
• Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
• Shadwen
• Joe's Diner

You can find more details regarding transferring digital games from a PS4 console to a PS5 console and installing PS4 games on the upcoming console in the official post linked in the source below.

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[deinonychus71]

Ohh stfu you moaning little girl.

Like pc games, you can get issues as the hardware used was not what it was built for.

And whqt sony exclusives have sony released on pc.

I couldnt give a toss if the ps5 didnt play ps4 games, its not like i dont have 3 ps4 consoles to play games on.

Of course issues can happen. But that's not the problem, the problem is that it doesn't even seem like they're going to address these issues and fix them over time, just like they already gave up on PS1/PS2/PS3.

It doesn't matter that previous consoles exist. The whole point of backward compatibility is to ensure games will still playable years down the line, when the old hardware and their accessories won't be produced anymore.

It doesn't take the world to get a ps1 and ps2 emulator running and maintaining it. Heck, PSP/PSVita can also work. PS3 would take more work for sure, but yet again, the competition has been doing it over the years when Sony was snobbing them.
For some reason I'm one of those guys who liked Lair. I know its framerate is awful, and you know what? This game would have benefited from the xbox treatment of enhancing all games on next gen. Just like many, many others.

Sony is being anti-consumer with retro compatibility. Well not just with that, I could write an entire paragraph about their region locked account system and how you get completely screwed if you move to another region of the world, but that'd be too long.
And I'm talking as a guy who's had multiple ps3, ps4 and ps4 pro and who already ordered the ps5.

As the commander in chief of complains against Nintendo fanboys, It'd be fair to expect of you to be at least as critical of Sony anti-consumer practices. You have no personal gain in defending that, why bother?

 

[Goku1992A]

$70 for a game isnt the problem. The problem is the DLC and microtransactions that makes the asking price worthless. PS2 era and below we got complete games but PS3 era and upper the DLC plague hit the gaming industry. Doesn't make sense buying a $50-$70 game especially when it will have a ton of DLC Seaon passes and etc... not to mention multiple game updates. If I'm paying full price for a game I expect a finished product not a rushed product that's going to have a million update to fix bugs and swarmed DLC.

 

[the_randomizer]

I'll just buy the games used and/or on sale just to piss off developers.

Also if devs are charging this price for games that require DLC or microtransactions, then f*ck them
People who defend the increase of price for games that require DLC deserve to be ripped off

 

[Goku1992A]

Of course issues can happen. But that's not the problem, the problem is that it doesn't even seem like they're going to address these issues and fix them over time, just like they already gave up on PS1/PS2/PS3.

It doesn't matter that previous consoles exist. The whole point of backward compatibility is to ensure games will still playable years down the line, when the old hardware and their accessories won't be produced anymore.

It doesn't take the world to get a ps1 and ps2 emulator running and maintaining it. Heck, PSP/PSVita can also work. PS3 would take more work for sure, but yet again, the competition has been doing it over the years when Sony was snobbing them.
For some reason I'm one of those guys who liked Lair. I know its framerate is awful, and you know what? This game would have benefited from the xbox treatment of enhancing all games on next gen. Just like many, many others.

Sony is being anti-consumer with retro compatibility. Well not just with that, I could write an entire paragraph about their region locked account system and how you get completely screwed if you move to another region of the world, but that'd be too long.
And I'm talking as a guy who's had multiple ps3, ps4 and ps4 pro and who already ordered the ps5.

As the commander in chief of complains against Nintendo fanboys, It'd be fair to expect of you to be at least as critical of Sony anti-consumer practices. You have no personal gain in defending that, why bother?

I think it came down to the price... Sony tried to do full BC with the launch 60gb PS3 but the sales wasn't that great so they had to strip the BC away and 9/10 times Sony in the near future will put our a PS2 Classic or a PS3 Classic and many people are going to buy that. Let's not forget them trying to push out the PS Now sales....

I don't have a problem with the PS5 being BC only with the PS4 that's considered a huge plus but nowadays you can buy a PS2 or a PS3 for dirt cheap and mod them so people are better off going that route. I doubt if a PS2 or PS3 classic is released they will be modded so easily but who knows. I have my moded PS2 and PS3 but I barely play them

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

They forgot the "dash part of "Joe's Diner" cause that's what I feel like doing right now to get away from that list of games.

 

[the_randomizer]

I think it came down to the price... Sony tried to do full BC with the launch 60gb PS3 but the sales wasn't that great so they had to strip the BC away and 9/10 times Sony in the near future will put our a PS2 Classic or a PS3 Classic and many people are going to buy that. Let's not forget them trying to push out the PS Now sales....

I don't have a problem with the PS5 being BC only with the PS4 that's considered a huge plus but nowadays you can buy a PS2 or a PS3 for dirt cheap and mod them so people are better off going that route. I doubt if a PS2 or PS3 classic is released they will be modded so easily but who knows. I have my moded PS2 and PS3 but I barely play them

I wouldn't trust them again with mini consoles, after the shit they pulled? Using outdated open source emulators, bad performance, making games run at PAL speeds in non PAL regions in 2019? Yeah, no. They should stay out of the mini console business and stick to the PS4/PS5, thank you.

 

[deinonychus71]

I think it came down to the price... Sony tried to do full BC with the launch 60gb PS3 but the sales wasn't that great so they had to strip the BC away and 9/10 times Sony in the near future will put our a PS2 Classic or a PS3 Classic and many people are going to buy that. Let's not forget them trying to push out the PS Now sales....

I don't have a problem with the PS5 being BC only with the PS4 that's considered a huge plus but nowadays you can buy a PS2 or a PS3 for dirt cheap and mod them so people are better off going that route. I doubt if a PS2 or PS3 classic is released they will be modded so easily but who knows. I have my moded PS2 and PS3 but I barely play them

There are many inconvenient about using old hardware, the most important being the depreciation of accessories needed for them, but also...
PS1/PS2 for example don't have digital output natively, it's a problem that will only get worse over time. What's the best way to play Timesplitters 2, a FPS legend, today?

PS3 games, for quite a few of them, have a low resolution or low framerate and would benefit from hybrid emulation (of the likes of what Xbox does or recently Nintendo with Mario Galaxy). I love to bring Lair as an example of a game that is borderline unplayable on PS3 and that is forever stuck on that platform because of this type of decisions. But there are others.
How do I play Soul Calibur 4 today? This game runs decently well on PS3, but then oh no, all my controller batteries are shit these days, and keeping multiple versions of controllers that are barely different... not super convenient.

At the end of the day yes, it's a nice to have, but the competition understood that if you keep stacking on nice to have over time you are more suited for the long game.

 

[jahmane]

yeah yeah yeah they said that last time

 

[Xzi]

they lost me at 70$ a game, I'm good.

Unfortunately that's going to be the price for most AAA games next gen, regardless of platform. Though Nintendo will undoubtedly remain an exception for some time yet.

 

[the_randomizer]

Unfortunately that's going to be the price for most AAA games next gen, regardless of platform. Though Nintendo will undoubtedly remain an exception for some time yet.

It wouldn't be so bad if developers weren't lazy ass programmers and actually had a complete game, you know, without DLC or microtransaction bullshit?

Until we get complete games, that are actually completed, 70 dollar priced games can GTFO

 

[limpbiz411]

Unfortunately that's going to be the price for most AAA games next gen, regardless of platform. Though Nintendo will undoubtedly remain an exception for some time yet.

i'd pay 70 if a game had no dlc and everything already included on the disc or offered all their dlc for free.

 

[Deleted User]

Well, that's awkward. SONY going for quantity over quality is never a good thing.

Meanwhile, Microsoft is working on making all their previous generations backwards compatible (Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One) with Xbox Series X than just throw out a number and hope for the best, like SONY's doing.



The only thing SONY has got going for them are the exclusives, otherwise Microsoft will be offering a better gaming service for the customers.

 

[Deleted User]

why is backwards compatibility such a big deal? people who are buying the ps5 probably have a ps4 as well, but if they want to play ps4 games that badly... just get a ps4?

 

[MikaDubbz]

Why would you play a mobile game on a PS5 in the first place?

Oh I have no interest in it. Just find it kinda humorous that of the few games PS5 can't support with backward compatability, one is a friggin mobile game of all things.

 

[Xzi]

It wouldn't be so bad if developers weren't lazy ass programmers and actually had a complete game, you know, without DLC or microtransaction bullshit?

Until we get complete games, that are actually completed, 70 dollar priced games can GTFO

There were already very few games worth buying at a full $60, so it really doesn't change much in terms of needing to wait for discounts to get the most value out of your purchases.

 

[pedro702]

why is backwards compatibility such a big deal? people who are buying the ps5 probably have a ps4 as well, but if they want to play ps4 games that badly... just get a ps4?

backwards compatibility is great, for instance i don't have space under my tv for 6 consoles but i have space for a phat ps3 that plays ps1,ps2,ps3- ps4 and wiiu(plays gc(hacked),wii,wiiu and more nes/snes/etc homebrew emulators), its a hassle if you want to play an old game that isnt available on newer systems and have to go to the garage or attic to get an old console to play that game alone and then put it back, backwards compatibility not only plays the games better than they were on their original hardware, but saves you space and gives quality of life.

For me phat ps3 will be held as the best backward compatibility console of all time, dont give me shit about xbox 1 or whatever backwards compat when there is an handful of original xbox games and xbox360 games avaialble, that isnt backwards compat its just a tiny list of games available that they got the permission from the devs, they dont even reach 30% of their respective consoles games numbers and never will get even close to 100%, becuase the way xbox handles backward compats they need the devs permission and probably the game source code to recompile it with changes, they dont just use a simple emulator, they recompile some code in each game, therefore even in 20 years you wont have 80% of original xbox /xbox360 games at all and never 100% becuase many studios went kaput, and their games source codes and permissions are probably forever lost.

 

[isoboy]

backwards compatibility is great, for instance i don't have space under my tv for 6 consoles but i have space for a phat ps3 that plays ps1,ps2,ps3- ps4 and wiiu(plays gc(hacked),wii,wiiu and more nes/snes/etc homebrew emulators), its a hassle if you want to play an old game that isnt available on newer systems and have to go to the garage or attic to get an old console to play that game alone and then put it back, backwards compatibility not only plays the games better than they were on their original hardware, but saves you space and gives quality of life.

For me phat ps3 will be held as the best backward compatibility console of all time, dont give me shit about xbox 1 or whatever backwards compat when there is an handful of original xbox games and xbox360 games avaialble, that isnt backwards compat its just a tiny list of games available that they got the permission from the devs, they dont even reach 10% of their respective consoles games numbers and never will get even close to 100%, becuase the way xbox handles backward compats they need the devs permission and probably the game source code to recompile it with changes, they dont just use a simple emulator, they recompile some code in each game, therefore even in 20 years you wont have 50% of original xbox /xbox360 games at all and never 100% becuase many studios went kaput, and their games source codes and permissions are probably forever lost.

In 20 years you'll be emulating silicon valley on your phone.

 

[pedro702]

In 20 years you'll be emulating silicon valley on your phone.

its been more than 20 years and still there arent any decent emulators of atari jaguar,3DO,sega saturn or even original xbox, so yeah 20 years doesnt make you gain a decent emulator sadly.

 

[K3N1]

Wait there's 4,000 ps4 games?

 

[eyeliner]

Well, couldn't they stream those games?
BC for some of these is like... Solved if they are streamed.
Go streaming, boys! The legend of the future begins with the PS5.

I really don't know, but are any of these games system demanding? I could understand that, but it seems that games that pushed the PS4 will run. And these seem like modest indie games.

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