PS3Xploit updated to work on 4.84, bringing back webkit exploit

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  1. DSwizzy

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    HAN is not that bad, you could grab and install "Any" package files off their so that way there's no need for doing the HDD backup method for games.

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  2. retrofan_k

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    Suppose, yeah. I'm kinda used to a full CFW on earlier models but this 4.84 Hybrid release is a good achievement just the same.
     
  3. brollikk

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    so HAN only supports PKG games? is there external HD support at all?
     
  4. BiggieCheese

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    That HFW concept is interesting, IMO; even if it’s just a simple webkit installer or modifier, I wonder if it could be used as some sort of entrypoint/chain starter for other exploits in the future.
     
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    Had to happen right after I blew all that money on thermal paste and a flasher..
     
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  6. MasterJ360

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    Sony has a ban system my guy :) they pay ppl to do this.
     
  7. Techjunky90

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    Sure, Sony has a ban system, but it's not 100% functional. Ps3 hackers and modders have gone years upon years without being banned.
     
  8. Vivisector

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    I've installed the new exploit but I'm looking to get some CFW installed. Do the old firmware downgrade guides still apply to 4.84.2?
     
  9. MasterJ360

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    Im just stating online cheating isn't an issue on ps3 at all. Theres a huge difference in hacking a ps3 vs going online cheating with a hacked ps3. Sony console bans ppl who obviously connects to PSN with cfw or attempts to cheat online. Yes you are right there are hackers/modders that do not get banned generally most of them don't even use PSN I'm one of them. If they happen to use spoofs well... wouldn't they have to play without cheating? otherwise the purpose of spoofing would be pointless to prevent a ban. Not even spoofing works 100% of the time, I do hear from a few folks stating they aren't banned yet, but I'm not convinced maybe they are just syncing trophies.
     
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  10. STLcardsWS

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    HFW firmware is linked there
    PS3Xploit Tools Updated.
     
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  11. XDel

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    Very cool, though for what ever reason I can not install homebrew such as the much needed ReactPSN and Rebug Tools.
     
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    Motherboard model numbers, I guess (which got up to the 40s, but with far from all the numbers in between being used)

    Yep, no PS3 mode homebrew with HAN (never mind homebrew that uses kernel functions added by CFW), but it's not like you need any *man program if all you use are pkgs

    All official pkgs, all unofficial PS1/2/P pkgs (subject to software emulator's compatibility), some pkgs of converted PS3 bluray games only if they have an update including the executable available for download (an update's executable is signed for running from HDD, a bluray's isn't)
    The same as on official firmware, so only for media & save backups

    Once you successfully perform the 4.84 flash writer (is it even out yet?) you can install any 4.84 CFW; from there you can enable the QA flag and downgrade (not like there are many practical reasons to do so)
     
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    Great. got a few PS3 on 3.83 and 3.84 I did not want to open and flash with the E3.
     
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  27. chrisrlink

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    inside your crappy old PC
    I already installed Rebug 4.84.2 Rex on the PS3 (CECH-2501A) i just scooped up
     
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  29. STLcardsWS

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    Perhaps but that happens one way or another without an exploited system or not. There is various ways to get modded game files on an OFW system and bet those same ones you are listing there will find those methods.

    Also there is various things the homebrew community does, Most people who have an exploited system do not want to get banned, Typically the stupid ones get banned AS THEY SHOULD because they are not respecting the network .

    PSNpatch / SEN Enabler / webMAN MOD all have a feature that EVEN sony likes. "Disable CFW Syscalls" (aka disable CFW) temporary until your console's next boot. This theoretically (as everything is theory as we do not know what sony is doing and it can always change, but PS3 is winding down what we know isnt likely to change or it would have long ago) also mask your using a CFW. Also PSNpatch also takes it a step farther (all 3 choices have so many unique features ) when using the plugin form it wont even allow you to login to PSN unless you have disabled your CFW (disable cfw syscalls). A very popular PS3 app

    Also another method is a DUALBOOT firmware (Sony likes this as well) this is an OFW (only for CFW users, not like the hybrid firmware release that is for OFW). A dualboot is essentially just an OFW but with a modification that allows you to install a CFW over the top of it, but again this is only for CFW users (OFW user's often get that confused). The idea behind the DB firmware is you can play your disc games on PSN / use services and then return to a CFW.

    So the point here is there is alot of things done by CFW user's to use the network as any OFW console would be. . Game Mods are MUCH easier to install and there is always methods arising.


    That is a misconception (in my view, but again EVERYTHING is theory) I can only share my personal experiences
    Back in the 3.41 era to jailbreak your console you needed a USB dongle at the time with the files. They were being sold by a few companies and eventually cracked and eventually CFW came, but anyway Sony could detect when people were using these, (more then likely they simply detected (Homebrew Content ID's) of apps running while connected. Anyhow many got emails warning to not use this device. A nice gesture honestly and shows Sony rather not ban people outright. I received one of those emails . I did stop using them myself (as CFW came out ;p) .

    So obviously myself and many should of been on the radar right? Well, to this day i have never been banned. Now i do not game alot these days on the PS3 (online), but i logged plenty of hours over the years and been logged in watching plenty of video services. My rule was use the system exactly as you would an OFW system online. It has worked well for myself. I also use PSNpatch to disable CFW syscalls, but there was a good 2 years or so where that was not discovered/created to disable CFW and a bulk of gaming /services (netflix ect..) were done in that period... I do not think Spoofs are good to use (i think there is a huge potential for a flag), but i have even used spoofs various times before.. . Not all spoofs are created the same either..

    Keep in mind that there is PSN standard detection and then also more in depth detection for popular games know for cheaters like 1st person shooters (again in theory) as series like CoD may have their own servers and look for things Sony does not. but will relay info to sony. I have seen some cases where you can be banned from that game online but you PSN is safe as well. So no one knows for sure anything but we do have lots of clues...
     
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  30. MasterJ360

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    Thing is im not stating a theory, time and time again ive seen ppl report getting banned attempting to play games online with cfw especially when the PS3 had a breakthrough last year in having the ability to be hacked on all PS3 models via 4.82. Alot of new ppl here got banned b/c they didn't know the consequences of using cfw via online play or lack of research on psnpatch. Just b/c you and a few others haven't been detected and you said it yourself... you dont play online {kinda aids my point} doesn't mean its safe for everyone else. Sony has been banning folks since 2011 with the 3.55 Kmeaw era even after True Blue dongle was a thing. I would know b/c I used to own one ;). Anyway the main argument was that someone in this thread was upset b/c they assumed cheaters would kill psn, thing is we wouldn't be able to cheat if we get banned for trying.
     
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  31. Foxi4

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    I operate under the presumption that no "stealth connection method" is safe as we don't know how things look server-side, we can only make educated guesses. A console, once modded, is an offline system. Unless the infrastructure simply doesn't support bans, there's always a risk associated with consciously choosing to go online on a modded console, on pirated games or legit copies. It's something that should be driven into the minds of every newbie - any modification, no matter how minute, carries the risk of something going wrong. Heck, some official updates have caused problems on consoles, let alone custom ones, which are ultimately coded by developers with no access to the complete source code. With that said, I also don't think getting banned on a PS3 is a huge issue nowadays as the system is discontinued and won't be supported for much longer anyways.
     
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  32. STLcardsWS

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    The thing is your stating theory 100%, that is based on 3rd party claims that you do not even know if the variables are correct, are you a Sony engineer ? Unless you know what exactly they are doing, then everything is speculation and could change at any time (which now likely not since end of lifecycle) ..You "seen people's reports". That means very little and especially if they are reports from people whom do not understand. Your best source of info can't be from the people who get banned in the first place for not understanding how to avoid things

    Also Many reports lie (embarrassment, ashamed or for whatever other reasons. We see it all the time and the real story comes out. Believe me i have Alot more experience with seeing people reports and how a story can change. ). You even agree to the point some lie about not getting banned, So can you imagine how many lie or simply have noi idea how they were banned, and then even more then that try and figure it out and are wrong and someone else believe then that person as fact . (That is how the False Ban Wave theories happens , There is no such things as ban waves lol, Sony is not going to see someone, save them for next Tuesday's ban wave lol. They would handle the situation as it needs to be handled (especially if they were cheating and such, it would be priority to get that use off not place him the ban wave bin), like a mod here in the forums would do with something that needed attention. I know ban wave was not mentioned but i know its said alot with PSN bans and its just nonsense, but brings me to my point that you can believe much from random reports.

    So many variables
    -- Other people using the PS3 and logging in without the owner knowing.
    --Doing things to get banned and never understanding how to avoid a ban.
    --Taking wrong advice as there is tons.


    Alot of new people got banned not for having an exploited system but for using something unofficial while connected. A symptom of a CFW console, but its not the cause. For me personally this is fact (and more concrete then random 3rd party chatter) i have TONS of hours logged into PSN on my PS3 has always been exploited. For yourself my comments is 3rd party chatter, but from someone who covered and written more articles on the ps3 homebrew scene then anyone. i do have somewhat of a understanding, so take that for what its worth if anything, That is up for anyone reading to decided

    It appears you read what you wanted to....... Now lets review what i actually say:
    OKay ? "This aids you point". lol
    I been using my PS3 online since the 3.41 days logging in and playing online on every firmware (PLENTY OF HOURS LOGGED IN), now because i do not game alot on the PS3 here in 2019 (online). when decetions & CounterMeasures would likely be at a low time for Sony, compared to the height of the system when sony would do all and everything to protect things.. I see how this hardly makes your point.
     
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  33. MasterJ360

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    "Also Many reports lie (embarrassment, ashamed or for whatever other reasons. We see it all the time and the real story comes out. Believe me i have Alot more experience with seeing people reports and how a story can change. ). You even agree to the point some lie about not getting banned, So can you imagine how many lie or simply have noi idea how they were banned, and then even more then that try and figure it out and are wrong and someone else believe then that person as fact . (That is how the False Ban Wave theories happens , There is no such things as ban waves lol, Sony is not going to see someone, save them for next Tuesday's ban wave lol. They would handle the situation as it needs to be handled (especially if they were cheating and such, it would be priority to get that use off not place him the ban wave bin), like a mod here in the forums would do with something that needed attention. I know ban wave was not mentioned but i know its said alot with PSN bans and its just nonsense, but brings me to my point that you can believe much from random reports"

    Hold up.... im sorry that doesn't make any sense to me, why on earth would ppl lie about getting banned? what is the motive behind this? hell why even bring up being banned? Ppl tend to fall short on what "caused" their ban or don't explain the full story. This is exactly why I don't waste my time reading Nintendo Switch ban threads b/c there are folks that get banned, but act as if they didn't do anything to trigger it b/c they feel ashamed.
    "So many variables
    -- Other people using the PS3 and logging in without the owner knowing.
    --Doing things to get banned and never understanding how to avoid a ban.
    --Taking wrong advice as there is tons."

    Yes exactly those are the main variables that literally causes a ban on ps3 its not a theory if all the above is a known flag. Maybe it doesn't happen as often today, but again alot newbies got banned last year here on tempt considering they made threads if they could unban themselves. Im not making shit up im just telling you what I experienced from others here and ps3 forums. Ppl not using psnpatch is the most common ban b/c they just go online carelessly with cfw playing games like COD or Battlefield.
     
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    There's a couple of things to keep in mind. Both PSN and Xbox Live have two methods of dealing with illegitimate users - flagging and direct bans. In the case of some offenses, bans are automatic and leveraged against the console itself, making it unusable online without swapping ID's with a legitimate console. In contrast, if the account is only flagged, it requires a human to look at the flag and make a decision. This is where the term "ban wave" comes from - they were periods of mass bans of all formerly flagged consoles, all rolled out at once. There is zero doubt that mods got people banned in the past, we've dealt with this before, which is why CFW's started implementing stealth code by default.
     
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