Hacking Proof that burning at 2x is teh fail

[Shuny]

Hello,

For today, I've burnt all my Wii discs at 2x speed. Yesterday, I made a quality test on both No More Heroes burnt at 2x and at 16x.

The 16x copy has a quality rating of 88.77%, the 2x one has a quality rating of 0.00% (zOMG)

Here is a comparaison of 2x copy quality and 16x one :



Graph 1 is the 2x copy, Graph 2 is the 16x copy

I can't say burning at 16x will give you better results than 2x for all the DVD burners and all media, but before burning at 2x, you should try at 16x and compare results

 

[raulpica]

Hello,

For today, I've burnt all my Wii discs at 2x speed. Yesterday, I made a quality test on both No More Heroes burnt at 2x and at 16x.

The 16x copy has a quality rating of 88.77%, the 2x one has a quality rating of 0.00% (zOMG)

Here is a comparaison of 2x copy quality and 16x one :


Graph 1 is the 2x copy, Graph 2 is the 16x copy

I can't say burning at 16x will give you better results than 2x for all the DVD burners and all media, but before burning at 2x, you should try at 16x and compare results

Quality 0.00%? TEH FAIL!

Glad I always burned them 8-16x

 

[Tanas]

I only burn at 12x and I never get DRE's and I also burnt SSBB at 8x and it works perfectly.

 

[nysid]

could u try on 8x ?
btw what media you're using?

 

[aardvarks]

i always do my games @ 10 speed,neva had any problems

 

[hankchill]

Those results will vary between different burners and readers. They are not 'definite' results.

For example, if you burn a Wii game on a Pioneer drive and scan it on an HP drive, it may have higher results than burning on the Pioneer and scanning on the pioneer as well. I did one on my Pioneer DVR-109 at 8x, scanned it on a Sony, and got a rating of 25%. Scanned it on the HP, got a rating of 99%. It really varies.

I found the winning combination for Wii games to be the Pioneer DVR-109 (or 115D), Taiyo Yuden's TYG02 DVD-R 8x discs burned at 8x. Never encountered a single read error on the Wii (before I sold it

) which is what really matters, not what another drive reports.

 

[Volkov]

always burn at the speed it says on the discs. burning at low write rates isnt good as everybody seems to suggest...

 

[superrob]

Well my games are all burned on 4x and gives about 80-90% quality with cheap fujifilm media / ritech.

 

[monnick]

This thread is nonsense. The slower you burn the better the disc. I always burn @ 2.4x on my Verbatim DVD-R 16x dvd's. Score: +- 90%

 

[kedest]

I'm burning all my discs (TDK DVD+R) at 2.4x, all working perfectly.

 

[Shuny]

I'm burning all my discs (TDK DVD+R) at 2.4x, all working perfectly.

I never had any DRE error burning my discs at 2x

Do you like your Wii lens ? Yes ? So burn at 8x/16x

 

[Shuny]

This thread is nonsense. The slower you burn the better the disc. I always burn @ 2.4x on my Verbatim DVD-R 16x dvd's. Score: +- 90%

Already proved in the first post that it's not always true

 

[Hit]

I always heard burning at 16x makes the lens die faster, but does this also count for 4x(The 0% result), I always do 4x speed burn

By the way, I also want to test this where can you see the %

EDIT:
I just downloaded app(cracked, I can't live with lite)
I start pi po test, with no more heroes disc inserted
And then my pc just reboots withouth a notice
Am I'm doind something wrong or is My disc so bad it reboots

 

[GH0ST]

It's is not so easy : it depends on your drive your media your firmware also ... even temperature, hardware configuration and fragmentation of your disk... etc

On the other hand an isolate surface scan is also proving nothing since the support is different ... for stats you need to check more ;-)

http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/NEC-ND-354...erformance.html

Perhaps is your drive a bit old or 'tired not yet dying' or simply the media was average near bad... or you was on browsing Gbatemp at the same time ^^

NEC 3540A is a good one but it needs a good firmware also .... 3540a - 1WB is the latest and is fine on high speed but not on low speed with some medias ;-) ( see there for some Dee-27's own thoughts about the 3520 another good old NEC drive very similar : http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/NEC-ND-352...stock-firmware/ )

http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/NEC-ND-3540A/
http://binflash.cdfreaks.com/

 

[bosscolor]

Always burn at 2.4x and the quality is top

 

[Shuny]

It's is not so easy : it depends on your drive your media your firmware also ... even temperature, hardware configuration and fragmentation of your disk... etc

On the other hand an isolate surface scan is also proving nothing since the support is different ... for stats you need to check more ;-)

http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/NEC-ND-354...erformance.html

Perhaps is your drive a bit old or 'tired not yet dying' or simply the media was average near bad... or you was on browsing Gbatemp at the same time ^^

NEC 3540A is a good one but it needs a good firmware also .... 3540a - 1WB is the latest and is fine on high speed but not on low speed with some medias ;-) ( see there for some Dee-27's own thoughts about the 3520 another good old NEC drive very similar : http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/NEC-ND-352...stock-firmware/ )

http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/NEC-ND-3540A/
http://binflash.cdfreaks.com/

Well, so I should buy another DVD Drive

Maybe some Pioneer / Plextor no ?

 

[bubbleboy]

I always do a 4x or 8x burn

 

[BigX]

this post is only valid for each owns burner/firmware/media combination!
To be sure everybody should measure the quality of their burnt media themselves!

But to be completely accurate you would have to do the read test with a Wii Drive! :-p

But the ultimative way to burn good media is: [insert your favorite esoteric mean of DVD burning here]

 

[MarcoZ]

I'd say burn it at 2x, 4x, 6x max. Why? because the Wii reads that way, and the lens reacts just like an original game.

 

[hankchill]

I'd say burn it at 2x, 4x, 6x max. Why? because the Wii reads that way, and the lens reacts just like an original game.

Doesn't make sense. The burn speed has nothing to do with the read speed. If you burn a 16x disc at 16x, the way it was means to be burned, you're most likely to have the same amount of issues/non issues as if you were to burn at a slower speed. It all comes down to the quality of your disc; the Taiyo Tuden discs I use I've burned from 2x to 8x, and have had success at any speed,but they were designed for 8x speeds, which is what I usually always burn them at. Just because I burn at that speed, doesn't mean that's the minimum speed the other device (Wii) has to be able to read it that speed; the Wii will read the disc at it's own pace.

It's the exact same thing as burning an Audio CD. I burned one at 16x. Do you think my CD deck will need to be able to read them at 16x? No. Again, people need to get it though them that the slower speeds = better quality is just a myth.

QUOTEWell, so I should buy another DVD Drive

Maybe some Pioneer / Plextor no ?

I just got a new Pioneer DVR-115D to replace my DVR-109 since it made some nasty noises and then refused to read DVD's anymore, and it is a great burner. The only thing it does not do is LightScribe, but a) who cares, and b) If I need lightscribe, I've got an external Samsung