[PPOTW #30] Is Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes worth the asking price?

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  1. Yes

    57 vote(s)
  2. No

    257 vote(s)
  3. Other (please specify)

    27 vote(s)
  1. T-hug

    T-hug Always like this.

    pip Chief Editor
    Oct 24, 2002

    This week has seen a lot of controversy surrounding Hideo Kojima's and Konami's latest release due next month, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes.
    The game is supposedly a prologue to Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, which currently has no set release date.

    So this week poll asks; Is Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes worth the asking price?
    Obviously without playing it it is hard to make the call, but on a content vs price level, can we ever justify £/$40 for a couple of hours?

    Supporters of the model have cited Gone Home and The Walking Dead as examples of similar practices, but Gone Home was £/$15 at launch and The Walking Dead is about £/$5 an episode, with the full season being £/$40 for 12+ hours of content.

    Will you be buying the latest Metal Gear on release day or wait for a price drop? Do you think it is worth the asking price?
    Is it our own fault as gamers for paying for on-disc DLC and in-app-purchases that has ultimately lead to this?

    Let us know in the comments!

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  2. Duo8

    Duo8 I don't like video games

    Jul 16, 2013
    No. This is ridiculous.
  3. Arizato

    Arizato Memento Mori

    Jun 1, 2009
    Buying to 100% the game, so I will probably get my money's worth. Those who are solely buying for the story are probably going to be disappointed at the length though.
  4. Clydefrosch

    Clydefrosch GBAtemp Psycho!

    Jan 2, 2009
    how much stuff do you think they could hide in a 1 hour 30 minute campaign though?

    to send a message, people should stomp their foot down and not buy this. this should be free/unlockable on the actual phantom pain game
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  5. Fluto

    Fluto A potato in disguise

    Apr 17, 2009
    The Moon
    No .... i'm still going to buy it though >.>
    Well, I am a achievement hunter of sorts so it'll be sort of worth the price, if it has a good replayability.
  6. Terenigma

    Terenigma Terenigma everywhere

    Nov 10, 2008
    Ask yourself this: Do you remember MGS2? Remember how the first part you played as snake and it was a short intro of sorts before the main game got going? You do? Would you buy JUST that part of the game for the price of a full retail game?
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  7. Densetsu

    Densetsu Pubic Ninja

    Former Staff
    Feb 2, 2008
    United States
    Wouldn't YOU like to know?
    Hell no, it's not worth it. And that's coming from someone who usually throws his money at MGS titles on their respective launch dates.

    I'm sure this will eventually be packaged with some later iteration of The Phantom Pain, in an "ultimate" or "complete" edition, which will probably be released long before I can even put a dent in my PS3 backlog. I can wait.

    I liken Ground Zeroes to the Virtuous Mission in MGS3 where you rescue Sokolov in the beginning.
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  8. Taleweaver

    Taleweaver Storywriter

    Dec 23, 2009
    Isn't it a bit early to draw conclusions? The game isn't completed yet! As I read it, there are some console-exclusive missions and extra missions. And for all we know, that "near-finished" game had all the tutorials skipped so testers don't have to bother with things they already know. Add in a couple unskippable dialogs and the result can clock in at some extra hours. (honestly: I've played games where I would swear the only reason the game seemed so long was that every character couldn't SHUT UP about things).

    Of course the result will still be short, but...I would at least give the game the chance to be FINISHED before judging it. If all reviewers agree on it being too short, well, THEN that's a problem. Now it's on that icky spot between "they can't increase the length without changing the release date" and "they can't pretend not to know it". It could lead to some last-minute fixes as well (adding some enemies just to increase the difficulty, lowering the player's speed a little, a few backtrack/fetch quests, optional missions becoming regular, and so on...).
  9. Guild McCommunist

    Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    May 6, 2009
    United States
    The Danger Zone
    Yeah, I'm a big MGS fan but no, not this time. I'll wait until The Phantom Pain comes out then I'll buy this cheaper or maybe it'll get bundled.

    Hell I remember buying Anarchy Reigns for the same price and while that was definitely buyer's regret, at least it had more content than this. As a $15 digital download I could see it being reasonable, as a $30-$40 retail game, absolutely not.

    Sorry Hideo "The Ruse Cruise" Kojima, but this is too far.
  10. zeello

    zeello The reason we can't have nice things.

    Apr 15, 2013
    United States
    $40 for a couple hours might be worth it if there is side stuff and replayability.

    But if all the same content will be in the full game, then it's almost like you're getting 0 hours.

    I can see people getting a downloadable PS360 version just to shave 20 dollars on the price.
    Whereas I can see other people getting physical just for collector's purposes.
    I wonder if this was done simply to capitalize on the launch of the PS4/One when there are many people hyped about their new PS4/Ones but not many games out.
  11. GamerzHell9137

    GamerzHell9137 GBAtemp Psycho!

    Nov 1, 2011
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Europe 30 Pounds
    USA 30 Dollars

    Yeah that's really fair.

    30 Dollars=22.5 Euro
    30 Pounds=36 Euro
  12. Generation 16

    Generation 16 GBAtemp Regular

    May 4, 2011
    United States
    edit: I just went full retard
    anyway no, 2 hours is /not/ worth 30 dollars.
  13. calmwaters

    calmwaters Cat's best friend

    May 27, 2013
    United States
    happy land
    I was going to say that games are expensive enough already and this one would be no different. But $40 for 2 hours of play? :wtf: This is obviously an exaggeration, but the point is that it won't take a lot of time to finish, even in the final version. I'm hoping for a game that will take at least 10 hours, at the worst.
  14. emigre

    emigre Oh Jeremy Corbyn

    Jan 28, 2009
    United States
    Nope. It's a rip off.
    It is. It's really about 90 minutes. You can speed run it within five minutes.
  15. calmwaters

    calmwaters Cat's best friend

    May 27, 2013
    United States
    happy land
    The animated Disney films are all 90 minutes. And they cost anywhere from $3 to $10. Is it fair to say they are greedy if they release this instead of adding it to the next MGS game?
  16. FireEmblemGuy

    FireEmblemGuy Celebrating a decade of shitposting

    Jul 6, 2007
    United States
    Michigan, USA
    If there were some new version of Metal Gear Online included? Maybe. But I was hesitant on buying it at $30 even when I figured it'd be at least a 6 hour campaign. For 2-3 hours tops, it goes into the Gamefly queue.
  17. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Aug 5, 2011
    United States
    New Jersey
    At these prices, Kojima must really want to put the "short" in shortchanged.
  18. Logan97

    Logan97 G.B.A.T.e.m.p T.e.m.p.l.a.r K.n.i.g.h.t

    Dec 24, 2013
    United States
    Where all things matter
    It's not worth it, but if the replay value is high, I guess I'll go for it, but the replay value HAS to be high, like ultimate spiderman, if not Hell NO.
  19. xwatchmanx

    xwatchmanx GBAtemp's (Un)Ironic Weeaboo

    Feb 13, 2012
    United States
    Chapel Hill, NC
    No this is certainly not worth it. Heck, Portal was only $15 digital and lasted me about four hours for just the main playthrough. And they're asking twice as much (digitally) for a game whose main campaign is apparently half the length?

    Don't get me wrong, I don't fault hardcore MGS fans for buying this. I know if this were Zelda, I'd probably do the same thing. But it's not an okay business practice, and it's pretty freaking obvious Konami is only doing this because they they can get away with it (since it's Metal Gear).
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  20. Apex

    Apex GBAtemp Fan

    Sep 4, 2006
    Something to keep in mind here, is that all of the MGS games are very short depending on your game play style.

    If you cut out all the cut scenes and rushed through the game, you can beat most of them in a few hours. I wont be buying the game for that price, because I don't have any of the systems it's on. (Besides, it might come out on PC eventually, seeing that MGS Raising did.)

    Who knows how long it truly is until it's released. I'd wait to criticize something until there's a general consensus as opposed to a few opinions.
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