Homebrew Possible to make DS VC games connect to an actual DS for multiplayer?

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Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about Wii U hacking lately and the possibilities not yet realized on the device. And this one really kinda makes me scratch my head why it wasn't implemented to begin with, the Wii/vWii can connect to a DS, and the Wii U can connect to a 3DS, which I assume means it could connect to a DS as well without being in vWii mode. This being the case, why didn't they allow for any DS VC game to be able to connect to a DS (or 3DS in DS mode), for multiplayer games? I would think this should have been totally feasible, yet it's just not there.

Having said that, would it be possible for modders in the scene that know what they're doing to implement such a feature, or is this just completely outside of the bounds of what could realistically be done in Wii U hacking?
 
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The DS local network protocol, usually dubbed nifi (basically a headerless wifi, see wifime for a slight discussion), is an odd one but if it can do it over vWii then it is within reason.
Someone would either get to write their own DS emulator with it for the Wii U or hack in support for it in the existing one which is probably easier said than done (there is a reason PC emulators took a long time to get anything like it and hacking it into something is not an easy step either unless there is some kind of easy pass through option).

Whether anybody will is a different matter; other than the occasional burst of enthusiasm from someone just discovering it then Wii U homebrew never really took off and is unlikely to at this point.
 
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this will never work, first the nintendo DS VC has no multiplayer coded in and we cant modify the emulator since we have no source code, which means someone would need to write a totaly new emulator for ds on wiiu and i dont see that happening ever lol we cant even get ps1 on wiiu let alone ds.
 
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The original developers of the DS emulator never bothered to support networking. Maybe the performance hit was unacceptable.

The hardware fully supports it - it has to, for backwards compatibility. It would have been a killer sell for DS VC games, but casual users might have asked "why can't I use download play I have no understanding of how your emulator works or why some multiboot roms might bork it"
 

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I always wondered if this was possible.

The Wii U is able to connect with the DS (and even the 3DS), if you used the Nintendo Channel you could send demos to the DS, if you played games that use the DS as some extra feature (like My Pokemon Ranch, Mii Channel, Batman: The Brave and the Bold and others ) you could use without problems.

So logically the Wii U (and Wii) are capable of that, but the problem is adding this to the emulator used in Virtual Console, it's probably not an easy job.
 
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