meant to say BRICK lool i tried using dop mii to upgrade some ios's so i could get sonic 4 working and i installed a few others too that looked out dated. and when i left dop and turned off the wii and back on it goes through my pri-loader?? (the one with 4 icons) like usual but then blacks out and never goes to the sys menu. i tried the reset whet it gets to the loader and it didnt do anything either. ... all cause i needed to update since i couldn't even install the wad for that sonc smh any ideas where to start?