Pornography to be blocked by default in the UK

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They've seen all of us do the same, so it would be due payback. :creep:


Payback for what? I'm lost at what you were trying to say, sorry :P You mean by their watching us?

This is why we created 'murrica, land of the free. At least our government doesn't generally make public announcements when they cut into our rights, perceived or otherwise.


No, they just violate our rights without telling us. What people do is their own business.
 

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Payback for what? I'm lost at what you were trying to say, sorry :P You mean by their watching us?




No, they just violate our rights without telling us. What people do is their own business, the UK government has no right to dictate what's moral or immoral.


I'm saying that they've seen us f*ck off, so we should see them do the same. It was a joke, nothing more.:bortz:
 

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As someone who lives in the UK and who hates the idea of content being restricted for the sake of it, I don't see any problem with child porn being blocked and made illegal and your ISP asking you whether you want to have a Porn filter in place (as that's what they'll have to do, contact you and ask whether you're opting out or not).

There's no sinister overtones that are obvious...they're trying to do something that seems genuinely positive for British society, and if it stays at what's being discussed here then I don't really understand all the scaremongering about these initial measures.
 

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As someone who lives in the UK and who hates the idea of content being restricted for the sake of it, I don't see any problem with child porn being blocked and made illegal and your ISP asking you whether you want to have a Porn filter in place (as that's what they'll have to do, contact you and ask whether you're opting out or not).

There's no sinister overtones that are obvious...they're trying to do something that seems genuinely positive for British society, and if it stays at what's being discussed here then I don't really understand all the scaremongering about these initial measures.

Child porn, sure - very naughty, bad, bad, bad, should be persecuted against. All porn? Not so much. Just because they're trying to do something good doesn't mean that extreme measures are welcome. A little example from history - prohibition in America stimulated one thing and one thing only - bootlegging.
 
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the UK government has no right to dictate what's moral or immoral.

What is it with you and that sentiment in every related thread? Governments have every right to dictate what is moral and what is not among their charges for along with public works that is one of their two main functions. There are checks within most legal systems (see terms like unconstitutional) and joining certain transnational groups makes for extra pressure to make certain laws or not make laws troubling certain things, but it is still their responsibility to decide upon and enforce morals though they usually get called laws. You are quite free to restrict yourself more harshly if you want and governments may also try to do the same (see reasons for many tax breaks) but that is a different discussion.
I might invite the UK goverment in this case to do one and/or learn how computers work but they can certainly try for this. It may or may not violate certain agreements somewhere but that has yet to be questioned in this thread.
 
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What is it with you and that sentiment in every related thread? Governments have every right to dictate what is moral and what is not among their charges for along with public works that is one of their two main functions. There are checks within most legal systems (see terms like unconstitutional) and joining certain transnational groups makes for extra pressure to make certain laws or not make laws troubling certain things, but it is still their responsibility to decide upon and enforce morals though they usually get called laws. You are quite free to restrict yourself more harshly if you want and governments may also try to do the same (see reasons for many tax breaks) but that is a different discussion.
I might invite the UK goverment in this case to do one and/or learn how computers work but they can certainly try for this. It may or may not violate certain agreements somewhere but that has yet to be questioned in this thread.


You're right about that, I had no reason to say what I said though. I guess what I want to know is, whatever happened to people deciding for themselves? But you're right on them learning about technology; they're so damn illiterate about computers it's hilarious.
 

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As someone who lives in the UK and who hates the idea of content being restricted for the sake of it, I don't see any problem with child porn being blocked and made illegal and your ISP asking you whether you want to have a Porn filter in place (as that's what they'll have to do, contact you and ask whether you're opting out or not).

There's no sinister overtones that are obvious...they're trying to do something that seems genuinely positive for British society, and if it stays at what's being discussed here then I don't really understand all the scaremongering about these initial measures.


My problem with this is, well, how do you define child porn? Sure, there's the obvious examples, but the line can get sort of grey. I mean, we've seen teenagers get sentenced for trafficking in child porn because they sexted each other. The standards can be stretched to ludicrous extremes, I don't exactly trust my ISP to decide where it lies for me.

Plus, I just take issue with the idea of punishing everyone for the actions of an extremely tiny minority, no matter how distasteful they may be.
 
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so first Merkel goes like "The Internet is new for all of us" in front of millions of people on lvie TV AND in front of Obama, now the brits ban porn. This is Europe in 2013 not Iran in 1973... Dafuq is wrong with people?
Yeah right and when I tell them I want my porn they look at me like a pervert. I am but that's beside the point :P
 

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I guess what I want to know is, whatever happened to people deciding for themselves?

That went away thousands of years ago and possibily millions when our ancestors found out that evolution had largely made creatures self serving arseholes but slightly beyond that those which banded together into groups with rules governing actions tended to survive better.

Some places still manage this, we tend to note those places are places that are in a state of anarchy.
 
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