Poll: did Trump really win the 2020 election?

At the end of the day, Trump didn't invite David Duke for a photo op, but Obama did invite Sharpton, and interacted with Farrakhan in the past. I don't remember him denouncing either, despite both having big blemishes on their records in regards to anti-semitism and homophobia. If we're going to use the bigotry measuring stick then be sure to use the same one for both.

 

I don't need to. I fully understand your point, your point just happens to be a silly thought experiment that is inapplicable to the United States federal government. You are correct in saying that the total number of voters, or the popular vote tally, does not change if you move voters from one state to the other. You are incorrect in saying that it wouldn't change the outcome - EC or no EC. The state legislatures are elected directly in individual states, the chief executive is not - they're elected by means of representative democracy. Removing the EC from the equation doesn't change that, the burden of choosing the president still lies on state legislatures, not the citizens. You'd have to rewrite significant portions of the constitution to change that, and there's no support for that, so we're discussing an imaginary hypothetical. You're focusing on a number that has no bearing on the final result, not because of the EC, but because of how the United States operate.

 

Don't tempt me with a good time.

It'll be my pleasure.

Spoiler

In addition to calling Jews "white interlopers" he's also on record calling them "diamond merchants", "bloodsucking Jews" and "Jewish bastards". There are so many more examples, both from past and present, that you're spoiled for choice - I simply picked nice, juicy ones where he's using slurs. He has some kind of obsession with Zionism and he's confident that it's a movement engineered to "put the black man down" or somesuch nonsense. He's a radical, and always has been - he's on record calling moderate black Democrats "cocktail sip Negr*es" or "yellow n*ggers", so it's clear that "moderate" is not his style.

In terms of notable actions, 1991 Sharpton led a protest in Crown Heights, marching right next to a protester holding a sign saying "White man is the Devil", all the while chanting "Kill the Jews". The protest turned into a race riot, 152 police officers and 38 civilians were injured. Two murders had occurred during the event, one of a Jewish student and one of an Italian who just happened to be dressed up in dark colours, so he "looked" like an orthodox jew. Three days of pogrom, all over a car accident.

There was even a resolution in Congress aiming at his condemnation, but sadly it was never voted on:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/106/hconres270/text

I've spoilered Sharpton's words and actions since I consider them unacceptable on this forum, we have slightly higher standards than American public life, it seems. In all fairness, Sharpton occasionally apologises for this kind of rhetoric, which is nice, but he's not a very good salesman, because I'm not buying it.

 

All of those statements are easily googlable and well-known. Some are literally on his Wikipedia page. God forbid you perform a basic Internet search in the age of right-clicking on anything to do so instantly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton

Not only that, I *have* provided a link - a link to the condemnation by Congress which mentions them. He's retracted many of those statements since, but the way I see it, he's a grifter like all race hustlers and merely adjusted his public statements to the current social justice trends. He is, and always has been, a bigoted individual.

 

You're changing the subject. My statement was very simple - Obama deepened social divides in America, one of the reasons why they deepened were his not-infrequent meetings (I believe Sharpton visited the White House 74 times, perhaps more) with race hustlers. I then provided evidence of Sharpton being a grifter and race hustler, since that was questioned despite a sizable public record of inflammatory and racially charged rhetoric. With that, my argument is complete and closed. If you honestly want more detailed sources for each and every individual statement then I can do that too, but honestly, with Sharpton's record you're asking me to prove that water is in fact wet. This isn't a weird revelation I'm dropping here, the calls for both parties to distance themselves from him were loud and clear in the early 2000's. Now he's being embraced again with his new, softened tone, but I don't have the memory of a goldfish and I don't believe in his sudden, magical transformation. I also have a good idea why battle cries like "pigs in blankets, fry'em like bacon" have resurfaced recently. "No justice, no peace" is another Sharpton slogan from two decades ago, IIRC, and we're hearing it again now.

 

Maybe you should follow the conversation then, perhaps you'd know how we ended up here if you did. As a reminder, we were talking about the racial divide in America, which in my opinion Trump has inherited from Obama rather than created himself - something he's often accused of. You, on the other hand, were (unsuccessfuly) trying to divert attention to me instead, or more specifically, my support of Trump. Personal attack, fairly standard strategy when people don't have a come-back, but that's alright. I'm done talking about Sharpton anyway, there's only so much you can say about him.