Poll: did Trump really win the 2020 election?

No, but you will possibly see him try to flee the country to avoid criminal charges, and you will definitely see him in court regardless. Even if nothing at all comes from the federal level, New York alone is ready to stick a pineapple up his ass, metaphorically speaking.

And I'm guessing Trump approved more, or you would have cited his numbers too.

The only people who continue to insist Obama was divisive are racists. The dude was possibly the most moderate, centrist president in history. He walked on eggshells the entire time as the first black guy in the White House. Not to mention: all these nitpicky things you've cited were what conservatives liked most about Obama at the time. I can't say for certain if Obama did all of it to appease them, but I can say for certain that is the reason he did some of it.

 

Exactly, and that's how we can easily predict he would've started another long-term war in his second term. Well, that...and the fact that he asked about his authority to start bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, AFTER he had already lost the election. Dude is just another neocon like GWB, but he needed his first term to grift as much money from taxpayers as possible.

By...being black? I don't remember him once mentioning race, outside of perhaps black history month or events like Trayvon Martin.

You sure do have a selective memory. How exactly was birtherism not divisive? How exactly is racism not the problem here, and at what turn did Trump fail to tap into that racism?

 

Obama treated blacks like they were inferior and basically told them they were entitled to other peoples things. It's about the same as the Liberals claiming minorities couldn't figure out how to obtain an ID, register to vote and show up to the polls to vote. That's racist as fuck. Obama just treated minorities like they were owed something and couldn't possibly fend for themselves without Government assistance.

 

Oh of course, everybody remembers Obama's famously all-black cabinet and black vice president!

Fundamentally different nations with fundamentally different circumstances. The US had been sabotaging Cuba for decades, it was long past time to normalize relations with the country, and Castro was on his death bed. Putin only wants the collapse of the USA.

Oh how horrible, you mean he didn't immediately separate and deport every family that tried to cross the border for any reason?

Incorrect, Republicans started pushing the unitary executive theory hard during the GWB years, both Obama and Trump simply ran with the power they were given. The difference was in the way they used it. Most of Trump's executive orders were objectively malicious, things like allowing the hunting of endangered species or the drilling of oil on national parks land. All he ever did was destroy what others had built, and he was most envious of the things Obama had done in particular.

It never would have gained the slightest bit of traction if Obama wasn't black, and you know it. Matter of fact, Trump tried it on Ted Cruz during the primary and everybody just laughed it off, though he did of course eventually still lose (because he's Ted Cruz).

 

It was used on Obama first because he knew he'd find an audience willing to accept the claim as fact, even with no evidence. He didn't care if it worked on Cruz or not, there's practically no fear of the "other" when it comes to Canadians.

Coupled with the whole "Mexican caravan" thing, it was all just the Southern Strategy reborn once again.

 

Reasonable people do that. Treating things as fake news because they don't support your argument is a sign of weakness. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really affect the argument.

 

Not especially, only if you don't understand human behavior. Racists don't always act racist & they can do the same things towards other people for other reasons.

 

And how many white presidents did Trump have the opportunity to accuse of being born outside of the US? It's not like he had any less evidence to base those accusations on than he did for Obama. Your assertion seems to be that it's, "just coincidence," and that's a massive stretch at best.

 

How many white supremacist groups does Trump need to support before you accept it?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...tral-park-five-us-election-2020-b1426977.html

 

You're right, it's a moot point. Firstly, because Trump was already soundly defeated as a result of his divisiveness, and secondly, because it feels like trying to convince you that water is wet. By now, you've seen Trump supporters' three favorite flags on proud display nearly as many times as I have, I'm sure. There might've been some sliver of ambiguity about their views on race in 2016, but by the time this year rolled around they had been full mask off for a while (spreading hatred, stupidity, and a virus all at once).

 

i believe kanye won, yall are just mean

 

Trump has said lots of contradictory things, it's part of his strategy to make everyone think he stands what what they want. It's why he ends up going to church once a year for a photo opportunity.