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Biden is still bad, he's just not as Trump. Nothing is going to really change, but he'll at least stabilize a few issues. But that's how I see it.
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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election
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I wouldn't correct you, but since you're calling others morons in the post I have to.
It's YOU'RE.
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acknowledged, still by policy, you're a moron if you pick Trump. You have history to figure out if he really is for you.
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I guess... I'll have to go through life being a moran.
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I have a feeling Biden will not be calling the shots and if he is it won't last. The plan for the Dems is Kamala Harris or even someone else like Palosi. They knew Harris was not from this country and she wouldn't have a chance of winning anyway. If Biden wins he'll be the puppet President.
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I have a feeling Biden will not be calling the shots and if he is it won't last. The plan for the Dems is Kamala Harris or even someone else like Palosi. They knew Harris was not from this country and she wouldn't have a chance of winning anyway. If Biden wins he'll be the puppet President.
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3 minutes between your two replies. You clearly are VERY attentive or you wouldn't be answering that quickly.
I am voting for morality.
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Trump's a fucking stooge.
Biden's potentially minutes away from mistaking a painting of Abe Lincoln as his wife.
I don't hear shit about Trump's VP tbh.
Kamala Harris meanwhile has a history of corruption as a leading District Attorney, hiding evidence - intentionally or not - that could exonerate defendants to push for guilty verdicts. This isn't excluding the fact the cat jumped out of the bag with the "Harris Administration, with Joe Biden as President" setting off Warning Sirens even in my Democratic heavy mother.
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What about the parties?
Let's see. Republicans have corruption, check.
Democrats have corruption, check.
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What about their constituents and supporting media?
Well the worst thing to come out of Right Wingers recently is the Proud Boys, which culminates in the biggest baddest thing they've done of late is the Kenosha Kid, who is likely to be exonerated of murder in the first degree on terms of self defense.
Meanwhile the worst things out of the left?
Y'know, I understand. Media companies will lie to us to push their favored political party's Agenda. But the moment you got media companies so desperate to save their party's skin, and the groups that support that party, that they are claiming arson, rioting, murder, etc, are 'mostly peaceful'? Yeah, I lost all trust in the Democratic leaning side. (Edit: I won't even GO IN DEPTH about 9/10ths of these Riots being over CRIMINALS, 7/10ths of them being over criminals who were actively committing a crime, or how NONE OF THEM are actually over innocents who got hurt like the kid who got shot riding in front of his neighbor's house on his bike)
I am again not saying the Republicans don't lie, but they tend to lie by omission, not bold faced lie to your face like this (because no Arson could ever be held in a peaceful manner - there's clear intent to destroy). And I am not saying there aren't PEACEFUL protestors, although one could argue guilt by association as they don't even try to capture the rioters. Calling a Riot a Protest is like calling a Self Defense a Murder (yes, small segway into the Kenosha Kid/Rittenhouse incident). While it's technically right to call it a murder, it's disingenuous not to admit what they actually did has a VERY specific name.
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Well the states is already in a bad position as is. Minimum wage still hasn't gone up when production is insanely high. He's likely not going to resolve the Health care system, aka, cut companies out and start having universal health care. We pay the most, yet we get the worst care compared to our 1st world country peers. I'm not entirely certain if he is going to help resolve the systemic racism or do much about it. I don't see him reversing changes Trump did, maybe climate change, but there was overall a LOT of damage trump has done. I'm not saying he's the worst possible pick. He'll definitely stabilize things a bit, against what we have now, absolute chaos. But it won't create real change.
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Destroying isn't violence, hurting people is, most people that are protesting are avoiding harm to others. they are fucking buildings up. But it seems to me they are avoiding casualties. Because if they were causing massive casualties, pretty sure it would be noticed.3 minutes between your two replies. You clearly are VERY attentive or you wouldn't be answering that quickly.
I am voting for morality.
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Trump's a fucking stooge.
Biden's potentially minutes away from mistaking a painting of Abe Lincoln as his wife.
I don't hear shit about Trump's VP tbh.
Kamala Harris meanwhile has a history of corruption as a leading District Attorney, hiding evidence - intentionally or not - that could exonerate defendants to push for guilty verdicts. This isn't excluding the fact the cat jumped out of the bag with the "Harris Administration, with Joe Biden as President" setting off Warning Sirens even in my Democratic heavy mother.
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What about the parties?
Let's see. Republicans have corruption, check.
Democrats have corruption, check.
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What about their constituents and supporting media?
Well the worst thing to come out of Right Wingers recently is the Proud Boys, which culminates in the biggest baddest thing they've done of late is the Kenosha Kid, who is likely to be exonerated of murder in the first degree on terms of self defense.
Meanwhile the worst things out of the left?
Y'know, I understand. Media companies will lie to us to push their favored political party's Agenda. But the moment you got media companies so desperate to save their party's skin, and the groups that support that party, that they are claiming arson, rioting, murder, etc, are 'mostly peaceful'? Yeah, I lost all trust in the Democratic leaning side.
I am again not saying the Republicans don't lie, but they tend to lie by omission, not bold faced lie to your face like this (because no Arson could ever be held in a peaceful manner - there's clear intent to destroy). And I am not saying there aren't PEACEFUL protestors, although one could argue guilt by association as they don't even try to capture the rioters. Calling a Riot a Protest is like calling a Self Defense a Murder (yes, small segway into the Kenosha Kid/Rittenhouse incident). While it's technically right to call it a murder, it's disingenuous not to admit what they actually did has a VERY specific name.
Personally I'm not voting democrat, nor republican. Say I'm throwing out my vote, but I have to vote with my conscious on this one. So green party it is.
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Unfortunately for Dems he's not dead.
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=...Trump/status/1312525833505058816&widget=Tweet
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=...Trump/status/1312525833505058816&widget=Tweet
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also as a sidenote proudboys are essentially 2020 KKK. once you look into it, it's a lot of racist rhetoric and dog whistles3 minutes between your two replies. You clearly are VERY attentive or you wouldn't be answering that quickly.
I am voting for morality.
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Trump's a fucking stooge.
Biden's potentially minutes away from mistaking a painting of Abe Lincoln as his wife.
I don't hear shit about Trump's VP tbh.
Kamala Harris meanwhile has a history of corruption as a leading District Attorney, hiding evidence - intentionally or not - that could exonerate defendants to push for guilty verdicts. This isn't excluding the fact the cat jumped out of the bag with the "Harris Administration, with Joe Biden as President" setting off Warning Sirens even in my Democratic heavy mother.
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What about the parties?
Let's see. Republicans have corruption, check.
Democrats have corruption, check.
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What about their constituents and supporting media?
Well the worst thing to come out of Right Wingers recently is the Proud Boys, which culminates in the biggest baddest thing they've done of late is the Kenosha Kid, who is likely to be exonerated of murder in the first degree on terms of self defense.
Meanwhile the worst things out of the left?
Y'know, I understand. Media companies will lie to us to push their favored political party's Agenda. But the moment you got media companies so desperate to save their party's skin, and the groups that support that party, that they are claiming arson, rioting, murder, etc, are 'mostly peaceful'? Yeah, I lost all trust in the Democratic leaning side. (Edit: I won't even GO IN DEPTH about 9/10ths of these Riots being over CRIMINALS, 7/10ths of them being over criminals who were actively committing a crime, or how NONE OF THEM are actually over innocents who got hurt like the kid who got shot riding in front of his neighbor's house on his bike)
I am again not saying the Republicans don't lie, but they tend to lie by omission, not bold faced lie to your face like this (because no Arson could ever be held in a peaceful manner - there's clear intent to destroy). And I am not saying there aren't PEACEFUL protestors, although one could argue guilt by association as they don't even try to capture the rioters. Calling a Riot a Protest is like calling a Self Defense a Murder (yes, small segway into the Kenosha Kid/Rittenhouse incident). While it's technically right to call it a murder, it's disingenuous not to admit what they actually did has a VERY specific name.
I, too, like to waste my vote on the Green party. But Trump needs to gtfo, so unfortunately I'm voting Dem.
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fair choice, hence why I don't call people voting for Joe idiots. I can understand wanting some general stability, instead of rampant insanity like right now under the current president.
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Small minded thinking but it's ok. Joe says he is the Democratic party but even knows that is utter bullshit. Joe will not be running the country if he wins President.
People calling for riots = stability in your mind, ok.
BTW the question was asked "what is so bad about Joe" how about video after video of him groping little girls in white house shoots? I already know the reply "he wasn't doing anything" blah blah blah.
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take your pick. A man inciting the modern KKK and endorsing them.
Or a man that doesn't and occasionally doesn't know where the hell is.
Because your taking option number 1 with Trump. He said live, telling the proud boys to stand by. Rather than denouncing them when he got the chance. You side with Trump, you side with the modern KKK.
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I posted a whole list of racist things Biden has done and said over the years, it may have been this thread or another I don't remember but I can post them again. Dems don't listen to reason though so it's kinda pointless.
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Your telling me, you would take 4 more years of Trump. Who already has multiple sexual assault allegations lied to your face about a pandemic for multiple months, who followed through none of the promises he made, made the richer richer and the poorer poorer. And with one tweet tank the economy? You would take that? Again, if you don't like Joe Biden. Good, I don't give two shits. Just ffs don't vote for Trump.
I personally, am not voting for Joe Biden if you look above
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You're believing fake news. But I'm just worn out it's nearly impossible to change someone's mind when it comes to this stuff and it's not my job.
I could point to the Democrat women who accused Biden of sexual assault while she was in his cabinet would it matter?
"Damage" "something" are the two keywords to take here. So yes, destroying buildings is, by definition, violence. By law, it constitutes violence, and would be enforced as such if ever taken to a court of law.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53491223
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/seattle-protests-CHOP-CHAZ-autonomous-zone.html
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/cr...chaz/281-48392a9e-d760-42f3-9469-c99466ed7a9f
This is just in Portland early after George Floyd when the CHAZ was a thing. I went off the easiest to find. I could go harder, if I so needed.
It really isn't hard to find murders during the early days especially of the Floyd based riots. Hell: here's TWO right after Blake was shot for attempted assault and kidnapping:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53917170
I STILL can not, for the life of me, see this 'systemic racism'.
The term itself implies the system itself, the government, is racist. Not that they can be utilized in a racist fashion.
I have a mental exercise I use to help people understand my view.
Take a piece of paper. It is your "system" to convey text. But it can only work when things are drawn on it - this is how the system works. Ergo the system (government) is the paper. And you are the person using the system (the individual policemen, court officials, etc)
Write a statement that's racist on the paper. Is the paper suddenly racist? no.
Are you the racist in this example? Yes. YOU made the pen/cil do the work, and made the paper convey a racist message.
Any laws that ARE racist should be removed, without a doubt. But anyone claiming the law itself is inherently racist, that the system itself is racist needs to realize this strawman argument is going to find maybe a small handful of laws out of however many thousands have been made, if they exist at all.
The issue ultimately comes down to racist individuals using the law in a racist manner. Not the law itself being racist. And it bugs me to no end people constantly claiming "systemic racism" when the VERY CONCEPT of it has yet to be proven beyond Jim Crow laws - which have been UNDONE for DECADES now. There definitely are vestiges of racist laws, but they do not make the system as a whole racist.
Allegations, none have been proven. I'm still myself waiting for any hard evidence of any of this happening. Most of the time these cases seem incredulous or out of nowhere.
Trump lied about a pandemic, but there IS reason to have REASONABLE CAUSE to *think*, believe it or not, that Trump did so to prevent a panic.
Also about him following through NONE of his promises?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000
He's only completely failed 3. He's completed/suceeded at a vast majority.
Also, I can't even comment on the Rich/Poor thing, I ain't that familiar with economy to comment on it.
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I am attentive. I was paying attention to what I was typing. Also, as I said before, it doesn't matter. That post you're claming I was ignoring wasn't the person I was asking a question to.
This topic should be dropped, as it's off-topic.
You'll get no disagreement from me.
There's no evidence for this kind of hyperbolic statement.
Pence is a stooge. The only thing he was famous for before becoming a vice presidential candidate was making it legal for specifically gay people to be refused business/service, and then having to backtrack for no reason other than the boycotts that negatively affected his state.
The San Francisco Police Department was responsible for running the crime lab we're talking about, not Harris’ district attorney office. This issue was put to bed long ago.
I'm also unimpressed with small gaffs like "Harris Administration," particularly after a year of running for president.
Both parties have corruption, but it would be inaccurate to say they are equally corrupt. The corruption in the Democratic party pales in comparison to the corruption in the Republican party.
Nobody on the left is condoning violence or destruction of property, and BLM has been largely peaceful. Trump and the Republicans coddle white supremacists. White domestic terrorism is the biggest terrorist threat in this country, and Trump and the Republicans won't address it.
Nobody on the left is condoning violence or destruction of property, and BLM has been largely peaceful.
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The minimum wage will likely go up under a Biden administration. Yeah, he doesn't support Medicare for All, but his solutions aren't bad otherwise, and there's a public option. I can't think of anything progressives are supporting with regard to BLM that Biden isn't supporting.
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If you could do me a favor: Please pick the single thing that is most demonstrative of Biden's alleged racism. It can be something he said or did. Make sure it's the best thing. Then, instead of dealing with a scattershot approach to trying to paint Biden as racist with little thought from you and a lot of thought from myself and others, we can have an equal conversation about what should be the most demonstrable thing. If that falls apart, then there's probably nothing. Does that sound fair?
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My hero.
I was all for criminalizing drugs, until I saw how bad things got. A bunch of people in jail for just having drugs, black markets and ironically pushing people to worse drugs. At least decriminalization would lessen the burden on jails. Not sure if I'm for legalizing all or just some drugs, but either way, they can be tax directly for healthcare. As for cannnabis specifically, doesn't seem to be any worse than what we have now.
This is not my conversation, but I feel like I have to chip in.
Most Coronavirus cases were not fatal.
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