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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. Hanafuda

    Hanafuda GBAtemp Psycho!
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  2. Foxi4

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    Nothing I said about the tapes is false, anyone with two ears can listen to said tapes and verify that - in fact, just one will do, so I consider that subject over. All disease estimates are revised over time, you don't know if the new counts are more or less accurate, and have no evidence to support your conspiracy theory.
     
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    y'all make biden's platform sound way cooler than it is
     
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    "I'm not Trump and I forgot my message - Dementia-Harris 2020"
     
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    Foxi hit on my objection to it. If Harris were the nominee I'm sure many of the Biden supporters would vote for her. What I find objectionable is putting someone more palatable and viable on the ballot only to have him be replaced by a candidate with very little support. That isn't very democratic.
     
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    Your proclamation is still insane - because you insist, that the intention is a bunch of people staring at Biden, until he dies.

    I'm also done with a moderator spuring on insane theories here. Can we get Foxi4 replaced in this forum please - or is this part of the russian trolling initiative thats mandatory for this forum?

    US politics never centered around 'a guy' or 'a girl', its always about their immediate policy team, their experts and their sponsors.

    Dont believe moderator lies, that this is all hidden plot to have Biden die, and then backdoor in another candidate.

    Its not. Its an election. Not a cluedo mystery.

    And once more - retract Foxis moderation rights in this forum. He has displayed enough instances of horrible judgement this being one of them.
     
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    You hurt my feelings. #BotLivesMatter :sad:
     
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    Pure insanity. Hashtag is another pepeism? I've reported you to the Admin. Your behavior has to stop.

    You cant be both acting like an instigating three year old, and hold moderator priviledges to shut down conversation at a place you like.

    While regaling in group emotions of having shown the 'nonhumans' on the other side.

    You are unfit to be a moderator.

    edit: At least in the politics section. Anybody that doesnt agree with your brand of insanity/political view, is at risk of being moderated out of the conversation. This stifles actual arguments here. Your moderator badge hurts actual fact based debate at this point. You are promoting a tone of conversation, that is dismissive of arguments, if they come from the wrong side.

    This has a chilling effect.

    Which means, if I'm not saying this - risking actually being banned from this forum for pointing out what you do - because I have a strong dislike of authority being abused (the way you are wielding it), other people are far less likely to do so. And you have driven conversation to a level that has nothing to do with actual political debate anymore.

    If you want to do that - make your own sock puppet account (if you are allowed to) - and forfit moderator privileges. That badge has an effect on conversation.
     
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  9. Foxi4

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    Seems to me like you have plenty of freedom to express your (negative) opinion of me. Don't worry, there's a full record of all moderation actions taken against you, including the deletion of off-topic spam and double-posting. Every member has a right to ask another moderator or supervisor for a second opinion, and you're welcome to use that right - I'm certainly not going to stop you. Now, I'd suggest that you return to the topic at hand since last I checked, I wasn't running for the office of U.S. President - sadly I'm not eligible, although I'd probably make a good one. For more information please follow the link below:

    https://gbatemp.net/help/terms

    The section on General Forum Decency is of particular interest to you, it outlines how you should complain and which rule you're breaking at this very moment. I'll wink and nod though, since I am feeling mighty generous today. :)
     
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    Seems like you are not banning me, yes.

    I don't even want you to react to my statements, just think about them.

    You just liked a posting of someone saying that they dont like, that a presidential candidate is obviously just supposed to die after the election to backdoor in the vice president.

    This is the dialog you are promoting. With moderator badge, merit and all.
     
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  11. Lacius

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    I never mentioned disease counts. I'm talking about Trump's lies. I listed them. Feel free to address which ones aren't lies.

    The hyperbolic "anyone with two ears can verify I'm right" comments don't contribute anything to the discourse. They're tantamount to other hyperbolic proclamations of "I'm definitely right," like "anyone with half a brain" or "anyone who isn't mentally ill" agrees with me.

    We know for a fact from the tapes that Trump said things that he lied about in public at about the same time. I say we know this for a fact because Trump admitted to doing this and said he did it so as not to cause a panic. We can argue about whether or not this was a good decision (it was not, since lying about it contributed and continues to contribute to the disease's spread), but it's simply gaslighting to say "Trump didn't lie." It's also telling that you're propping up something as not a lie instead of talking about something I actually listed as a lie.

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    Nothing personal, but it's hypocritical to mass-delete posts in a thread because "our site doesn't deal in conspiracy theories" before spouting conspiracy theories (Biden-Harris conspiracy theories) that are just as nonsensical.

    It's one thing to say Harris should receive extra scrutiny because of Biden's age (she should). It's one thing to say Harris has a likelier than average chance of replacing Biden because of his age (she does). It's another thing to say Harris' replacement of Biden is something the DNC or some other group is specifically planning for after the election, and it happening circumstantially is an illusion. If I've misrepresented your conspiracy theory, please correct me, but that's the bullshit we are perceiving you to be hypocritically spewing.
     
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    In that case let me post a clarification - Harris should receive additional scrutiny due to Biden's age. It's pretty basic risk assessment that was no doubt a subject of discussion during the Democratic convention. I hope you find that response to be satisfactory.
     
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    Did we misinterpret your previous statements, are you recanting your previous statements, or neither?
     
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    Aw and Foxi4 gets another in the hate thread/pissed someone off seriously enough to call for removal column before I get a single one. Going to have to try harder it seems.

    Anyway not really sure what I want to look at for this one. Health of rich elderly pocket liners and legacy chasers of dubious moral character, and possibly intellectual fortitude, and almost certainly without a set of core values/principles, all for a fairly meaningless role in the grand scheme of things. Policies that might not matter, or might be quite scary if somehow put into practice (though between constitution, incompetence of politicos, lack of funding and general things moving at a snail's pace it is unlikely to come to pass).
    Panic over viruses, panic over economy (though that might be properly founded and the big results here will likely be decades out -- how many now have no retirement, dubious systems used to elect to begin with, fewer kids, no chance of not being a renter), the utter failure that is modern journalism on basically every front, weird shifts in population (New York and California emptying somewhat and that has knock on effects wherever they might land), bizarre takes on the police and results of that one...
     
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    Sorry is that a sentence, or are you enjoying the green fairy again?

    Poetry class in the middle of an argument? That had nothing to do with
    - health of rich elderly pocket liners
    - legacy chasers of dubious moral character
    - legacy chasers of dubious intellectual fortitude
    - people without a set of core values/principles mistreating anyone here in here


    This was simply a user - probably out of sheer hatred towards the inkling of the idea, that a women could become president (?), by the presidential candidate dying in the future, or at least playing with that prejudice, mentioning this as their main motivations not to vote for one of the candidates. And a freaking moderator liking that statement.

    There is no, absolutely no, indication anywhere, that a career driven Kamala Harris, who is mostly progressive by image, not action - would "ruin" the US in that instance. Which if the statement wasnt misogynistic, would be the only other explanation - tacked on to the idea, no the CHANNELING of a person dying in the next four years should prevent prevent people from

    a. voting
    b. voting Biden

    The entire setup is cruel, crude, a little disturbed, a quite a lot misanthropic, likely propagating a freaking meme, showing no undestanding whatsoever about what the presidency is, or how US politics work, or what voteing is....

    So naturally - a moderator here had to like it, and you had to dedicate a poem to it.

    Stop it.

    edit: Oh, by the way, and after having been called out on it, the response was - no seriously, but its a problem that they appoint one candidate to die. To then get the other one in.

    And only after that - the moderator weight in to tell everyone, that no, seriously - this is really a good argument warranting recognition.
     
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  16. Foxi4

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    Baby, I was born this way.
    I haven't sincerely recanted a statement once in my entire life, never needed to, so pick whichever one pleases you more, really. I know what I meant when I said it - given all the circumstances at hand and the probability involved I think it would be crazy for convention-goers to not consider that as a plausible, or even a likely scenario. It's priced into the package from the get-go, so I suppose it's "planned" in the sense that it is accounted for. If you don't like that phrasing, that's fine, we'll call it "concern in regards to Biden's age" and leave it at that. I don't think it's fair for the voters and I can only hope that people will have this in mind at the ballot box. I can't possibly imagine Biden serving the customary two terms, as most of the presidents in recent years - he'd have to be a one-term guy, if that. That alone makes him an odd candidate to nominate, but then again, I'm not a Democrat, so I may have different priorities.
     
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    Haha, amazing watching these americans rip each others hearts out. You people are so full of rage and wrath. For the past 20 years you have destroyed other nations. Your darling obama was the biggest war mongerer. Now you finally have someone who has not attacked some other poor country and you can't take it. Your hatred has turned inwards. Good. eat each other, end each other.

    Trump is the best thing to happen to the planet in the past 40 years. At least he's kept you vile lot off the rest of our backs.
     
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    Normally I considered you someone of at least some capability in debate.
    Conjuring up sexism out of nowhere. Throwing random insults around... what happened there?

    As far as the sentence, which I did not consider in any way poetic and if it turns out I wrote in Iambic pentameter or something then I will be mortified, I will rephrase. I will also note it was nothing to do with whatever came before. If it was anything it was an attempt to get things somewhere vaguely close to back on topic.

    From where I sit anybody that runs for office is either a troll (I did like that republican nominee for police chief the other day), someone seeking to stave off that third death (a man dies three times, once when he is born, once when he dies and lastly when the last person speaks his name), or to line their pockets. To achieve this... moral flexibility is needed and while you might proclaim to hold some kind of position/value/set of baseline ethics such a thing only makes it harder so anybody playing top level tends to get that.
    To that end there has never been a politician (and I have met a fair few, seen plenty of others out in the world and read of their actions over the course of hundreds of years, to say nothing of show me the incentives and I will show you the results) that I would piss on where they to catch on fire, saving that they were already too far gone and I could deliver a final insult.

    On a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris then makes logical sense to me, and presumably to their puppet masters (and going back further still -- there is a reason).
    If I go into business with someone I will see what their wife is like for when the divorce inevitably happens, or they lose a game of beat the bus/age into uselessness, I get to pony up the money to divest them or report to her now being a nominal stakeholder. This seems like no great variation on that theme.

    As far as indications. Her record as a lawyer left something to be desired and if that was spun out to the country at large (most people don't look to her base state as a shining beacon, and most lawyers turned politico act like lawyers, medics act like medics, business wonks act like business wonks and career politicos play office politics pretty well), which, if I ignore my general misanthropy and indifference towards politicos, might well make for a fun time. Simplistic perhaps (I would look more towards the the treacle slow pace of things and million things those that care to oppose can do to stymie efforts).

    Likewise if a potential politico has given the nod to various people to take up key roles should they assume office and you don't like their picks you might consider not voting for them, even if they themselves do OK for you.

    To that end if you then want to vote tactically or skip it as you are indifferent to the results then more power to you.
     
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    Out of curiosity, if Trump wins, but something happens to him, are you fine with Pence becoming president?
     
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    Definitely Trump. Nobody wants to live in a communist country.
     
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