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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. r0achtheunsavory

    r0achtheunsavory Suspended
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    You people are high on your own supply making 5000 arbitrary, meaningless, nonsensical labels of government and economics that don't even exist in the real world. All you need to know is barter is the main form of human interaction in trade and the further you abstract from barter, the bigger a scam it is.

    Since humans practice specialization of labor, trading a non-perishable, physical commodity resource is the closest thing to barter without being barter itself, and so the noble metals (gold, silver, somewhat copper) were utilized. The purpose of money is to transfer value from the present to the future, so the unit of account has to be an actual resource in order to guarantee the value isn't zero for the next guy.

    Aristotle was right and Plato was a liar and statist shill who claimed imaginary widgets could be money. It works until it doesn't, then it implodes and everyone dies.
     
  2. notimp

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    Death cult? ;)

    Take it a little easier. Reports of the end of the world are over exaggerated. ;) As always.

    Cant deny that we are living in interesting times though. :) (Several powershifts ongoing.)
     
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    If by end of the world you mean complexity theory likely predicts cyclical dark ages, then sure.
     
  4. Whole lotta love

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    I'll trade you 5 chickens for 1 month of 100mb internet. Take it or leave it pal. I have plenty of people I can trade with for their international infrastructure.
     
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    Cyclical dark ages. You crack me up. :)

    How do we define dark ages? All books burned? No one allowed into the castle walls anymore? .... ;)
     
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    Whomst among us is surprised that the guy promoting a white supremacist conspiracy theory that considers racial diversity to be anti-white "genocide" also believes the world is run by an evil Jewish man?

    I bet you feel your buddy Adolf has been treated unfairly by history, too.

    [​IMG]
     
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    finally swallowed "the jewish question" pill.

    like i said, dangerously radicalized.
     
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  8. notimp

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    Just radicalized. :)

    Oh, and btw. if you've ever seen or read something of Project Syndicate in here, that I've posted, Soros (amongst others) funds that.

    Its just, that you better know what you are critizising - instead of going with the flow of one particular filter bubble and ending up at 'the jewish world conspiracy'. :) Basics.

    The funny thing is - even Alex Jones gets 'reintegrated' these days - to some extent:


    Hes just a man on a mission, having misunderstood a bunch of stuff, and believing in alien conspiracies of the cold war aera, and numerology... ;) Maybe he is slightly more dangerous, because of the numbers of followers he can conjure up, but he is so misunderstood.... ;) (slight sarcasm.. ;) )
     
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    notimp's Life of Brian scene summarized this disagreement perfectly.:rofl2:
     
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    Curious.
    You go on about barter being the purest form but immediately abstract it to monetary systems, which are anything but barter. As a general principle it is not a bad plan -- you not only have to have chickens to trade but also want my cord of cut wood, aka double coincidence of wants, not to mention going the other way and no way is one chicken worth my felled tree and I can only eat so many chickens. I should also note gold, silver and whatnot are only valuable because shiny and someone said so -- can't eat it, can't make a sword with it, can't fashion a shelter from it, even today if the price went to that of say steel there is precious little I can do with it that can't be done better by similarly priced...

    As for the labels. Some do exist (the democratic socialism bit that was under discussion has several people in fairly high office, and quite a few lower ones, right now in the US, some even survived reelection. Whether it forms either a viable form of governance or the dominant one anywhere is a different matter) and also can exist within the frameworks most people use to describe political approaches to the world. You also have to get right into the weeds and find mutually incompatible (see something like anarcho monarchist, that is to say the king forms a state to prevent emergence of the state) before you struggle to find those seriously advocating for it with some measure of backing.
     
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    I do believe that the anti-label people are now labeling people that have a common set of reactions or beliefs as “Karen’s”. It is indeed a slur, but I don’t see it being used solely against White people. I however tend to ignore insults coming from children especially the labels they’re giving everyone after years of claiming labels were the root of all evil. There’s also that “Ok Boomer” insult that I completely ignore. If you are slandering someone and those slanders are based on their race and that includes white people then you are indeed being racist against white people. Maybe since I just ignore dumb insults I haven’t seen it being used in that fashion?

    Vaccines are relatively safe and have a very low death rate. You’re more likely to just get some flu like symptoms for a few days if you do have a bad reaction. You can die from drinking water too, but the chances are so low it’s worth the risk to consume it. Nothing in this life is 100% safe, but just like the death rate from the Chinese Wuhan Coronovirus you’re most likely not even going to get sick let alone die from vaccines.

    It’s funny how you now claim something with a 99.9% survival rate is okay, but something with a 99.8% survival rate warrants we wear masks, social distance, stay indoors, don’t work and keep shops and businesses closed. More people die from car accidents and obesity, but I don’t see anyone jumping to ban cars or educate people on how to take care of themselves and watch what they eat. Hypocrite much?

    Since there’s stupid people like Hunter Biden who consumes drugs with random substances in them I don’t think legalizing deadly drugs would have the outcome you hope for.

    Any form of socialism is bad. I don’t understand why you all keep trying to implement old systems created by old rich white men that have always failed. It’s 2020, shouldn’t you be trying to come up with something new to replace capitalism with. Why do you have to keep falling back on something that’s proven to not work?

    The Liberals on this site refuse to acknowledge there’s a globalist agenda floating about. It’s like the WHO, United Nations, World Bank don’t even exist. We were even educated in grade school about the possibilities of a one world government. The funny thing is even if there’s no globalist agenda you can’t even get a straight answer out of anyone here if they would support one if one did exist.

    For the record since I am a citizen of the USA I believe that the USA should come first, which is why I like how Trump ripped apart NAFTA and renegotiated our trade relationship with China and is trying to bring manufacturing back to the States. For years we’ve been on the wrong end of deals and that includes being in Globalist organizations like the WHO. I don’t think a global government is feasible because there’s other countries like China and Russia that are just not interested in one. However, there is a globalist agenda … it’s very real.
     
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    Joe Biden: “I’ll lead an effective strategy to mobilize trunalimunumaprzure.”
     
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    This has nothing to do with the email evidence from Hunter’s laptop or Bobulinski’s firsthand account of the Biden family pay-to-play racket. I read news from blogs and websites leaning both left and right and never saw this "64 page dossier" business mentioned anywhere before NBC ran this story.

    [​IMG]

    As for the emails on Hunter's laptop, the DailyCaller hired a cybersecurity expert previously used by the Washington Post, Engadget, AP, and Wired ... he says the email is authentic based on DKIM signature.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/29/cybersecurity-expert-authenticates-hunter-biden-burisma-email/
     
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    Glen Greenwald resigned from the Intercept over similar concerns:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/media/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-intercept/index.html

    One can decide for themselves, if this is 'reality management'. Imho its not out of the question to hold this opinion.

    edit: changed link
     
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    Truth is truth. How is it a conflict of interest calling out a major news outlet for muddying the waters on a real issue. These are the same organizations that print "news" on Trump based on anonymous sources even when you have real people saying it's not true.

    And wow, the title of the new story was not enough to tell you who was saying it?

    "Trump campaign accuses NBC News"

    NBC's article has nothing to do with what has been discovered from the hard drive of Hunter Biden.


    CURRENT DNI John Ratcliffe confirmed the Hunter Biden laptop is NOT connected to Russian disinformation effort. That there is no intelligence to support any claims of that nature. No matter what arm chair intelligence officers claim.

    Signatures have been compared from the form at the computer place. And they match enough to suggest/indicate it was Hunter who signed.

    Hunter Biden's Attorney has attempted to retrieve the hard drive from the computer store owner.

    People on the email chains have confirmed they received the same message as in the evidence of his drive.

    Tony Bobulinski who was one of the recipients has confirmed he was a recipient of one of the emails from the laptop hard drive. He has also come forward with his text messages and given an interview making his case.

    Secret service has confirmed that travel plans match places and times traveled listed in the emails.

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/2020-10-20 CEG RHJ to Secret Service (Hunter Biden Travel Records Follow-Up) .pdf

    The smoking gun email from the hard drive was confirmed by a 3rd party forensic analysis to be authentic.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/29/cybersecurity-expert-authenticates-hunter-biden-burisma-email/

    Neither Joe, Hunter, or his campaign have said the data is invalid. Or that it is NOT his data/laptop.


     
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