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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. crimpshrine

    crimpshrine GBAtemp Advanced Fan
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    Actually now that you mention it, I was working in my attic like 6 years ago. I had got punctured by a roofing nail that was stuck through the roof. And it was a bit rusty.

    So thinking I was doing the right think I went to the doctor because I think the last time I had gotten that shot, I think it is the one you are referring to, I was a teenager. The doctor said yeah it's not worth taking a chance. And I remember feeling like complete shit for several days after getting it maybe even a week after, my lymph nodes in my neck were really swollen.

    I think I even called the doctor and they said, yeah that can happen with the tetanus shot, and from what you say your side effects are not that bad. LOL.
     
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  3. omgcat

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    oh, Tucker Carlson says it's time to leave hunter Biden alone now.

    Interesting how this happens less than a few hours after NBC News reported that a 64-page dossier alleging a complex conspiracy involving Hunter Biden and China was actually authored by a fake persona. "The fake document, which had been floating around the far-right web for a month before the New York Post published a controversial article echoing those conspiracy theories, was eventually disseminated by close associates of the president."

    once again, gonna be a yikes from me.

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    let me tell ya, lockjaw is nothing to fuck with. sore lymph nodes is nothing compared to the progressive locking up of your body until death or permanent artificial respiration. there is no cure to lockjaw, it can only be managed at its current progression.
     
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    You forgot to mention that the Tetanus vaccine is bundled with the whooping cough (the more dangerous part) on purpose because nobody would take the highly dangerous one otherwise. As if preventing whooping cough is actually a government priority while letting in millions of illegal immigrants per year with tuberculosis.
     
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  5. crimpshrine

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    So anything tied to Joe is what he wants to focus on. Which we already have 2 damning pieces of evidence that have been verified at this point.

    Hunter is a freaking mess, we can all see that.

    Although the likely abuse that Joe knew about that his son was doing which has also been shown in text messages, is something Joe should answer to also.

    Any of us under the same circumstances would be in trouble I believe.

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    Really? I did not know that. I don't recall now if they told me when I got my tetanus shot later in life again that was the case.

    Lock jaw does not sound good. I just remember thinking after I got that, I would just really be careful after 10 years with things, that I don't think I want to get another one of those shots again.
     
  6. omgcat

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    his family drug problem seems par for the course when you consider the opioid epidemic that fucked the Midwest in the last 10 years. A lot of families are probably relating to him having a family member with a drug/alcohol problem.

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    if it was the booster, it was the TD vaccine, not Tdap. I had to get the TD shot as well as a few others before my trip to Japan. wasn't bad at all, only had a sore arm for a day.
     
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    Wonder if that has anything to do with the US military guarding the poppy fields in Afghanistan? (Bush, Obama, Biden, Clintons all part of the same criminal group).
     
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    What I find fascinating is watching this bully call people names left and right, but immediately curls into the fetal position playing the victim after I challenge him on his BS.
     
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  9. crimpshrine

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    Yeah I don't know about that though. I have known plenty of good people in my lifetime that have had issues with drugs. I think Hunter is a BAD person. Inside and out. Drugs is just one of his problems a minor one in the grand scheme. I don't look at him and empathize with him. I would find it hard to believe others do. If you are a pedophile douche bag who uses people and addicted to drugs, maybe.

    I believe all drugs should be legal.
     
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    I don't believe it was a booster. But heck I don't recall all the details now. Just remember thinking I was not going to get it again. First time I ever had an issue with a shot before. Sore arms I am fine with, that is normal. I felt like complete shit like I was sick like having the flu if I recall correctly with no fever. I might have even had aches all over. Enough that I called the doctors office, and I think they said it gets worse the older you get when you get it again.
     
  12. omgcat

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    the dude's an incel, he even uses all of the incel terminology. sucks when you try to have a discussion about the presidential election and one side simultaneously claims to be "educated, logical, and informed" and then throws away and cited sources claiming they're fake science, and pushes crazy labels on people. he's claimed I'm a communist before which is nuts, because i get to decide what i believe not him.

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    sounds a lot like "why won't women sleep with me!" to me.

     
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  14. Master X

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    So, uh... just how many of your posts are in this ONE topic? Seriously, if we're going to be making claims off of 'constantly spamming blah blah blah' then you're pretty much a case study for a dysfunctional soy male.
     
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    More Alinksy tactic projection - accuse the other side of what you are. Leftists have no defense against things like survival of the fittest existing and know damn well they're the bottom of the barrel in that regard. Trying to argue their way out of it just infuriates them. Pretending their ideas have any merit when it's subsidizing reverse evolution.

    They have a Trump rally and everyone looks like a normal, working class person. Look at an ANTIFA lineup and it's all mutants high on crack:

    [​IMG]
     
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    True. We also learned today that he's an anti-vaxxer. So it only makes sense for him to place crazy labels on people, which serves as a counterbalance to the crazy labels he places on himself.
    Well put, Master X.
     
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    This guy is like the Chad of Antifas. The only one that looks remotely normal - like an ugly version of Kurt Cobain - except for the outrageously stupid face tattoos like he's some type stoneage tribesman living in the jungle.

    He could have potentially been a non-dysfunctional human, but alas, this is the product of all single mother households. He smoked so much crack that he roasted his brain and joined the anti-white, Marxist group Black Lives Matter, even though the black on white violent crime rate is 10x higher than vice versa so there shouldn't even be a BLM and should be a WLM instead:

    [​IMG]
     
  18. omgcat

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    i guarantee you the people in that photo have had more sex than you. survival of the fittest only applies if you actually reproduce my friend.

    i mean, imagine believing that basic human functions like communication is stuff only women should do.
     
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  19. Whole lotta love

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    I am beyond confused.

    Libertarian socialism is an anti-state socialist tendency. Democratic socialism is a statist socialist tendency that attempts to replace capitalism overtime with gradual reforms. While both tendencies are hoping for the same general outcome (replacing capitalism with something more equitable and democratic), they are incompatible with each other because Libertarian Socialism rejects state authority while Democratic Socialism attempts to wield state authority to achieve its ends.
    Are you making this argument because Wikipedia erroneously places Democratic Socialism in a category with Libertarian Socialism?

    Libertarian Socialism isn't a "subform" of Democratic Socialism. Both are different tendencies or schools of thought under the wider umbrella of Socialism, alongside Left Communism, Maoism, Marxist-Leninism, Marcyism, etc.

    But I don't even know why you're talking about Democratic Socialism. My discussion with Foxi never mentioned Democratic Socialism. Further, your original post mentions Social Democracy, which is a capitalist system that incorporates Socialistic programs like universal healthcare and free public transportation to mitigate some of capitalism's negative outcomes. Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism aren't the same thing.

    Here's a decent summary from Moneyless Society of the differences between Libertarian Socialism, Democratic Socialism, and Social Democracy:

    "Libertarian Socialism seeks to eliminate legislatures completely whereas Democratic Socialism retains a limited form of government in power."

    "Social Democracy refers to a socioeconomic and political ideology that favors social and economic interventions for promoting social justice principles within a capitalist-oriented economy and liberal democratic polity."

    "Social democracy still retains capitalist markets, which are an absolute no-no for libertarian socialists. While social democracy prioritizes the welfare of the people above all and is not opposed to the use of capitalism to achieve these objectives, libertarian socialism prioritizes power to the people above all and is completely opposed to the concentration of power and resources in the hands of the capitalists on all fronts. "

    This is not true. Anarcho-Syndicalism is a form of Libertarian Socialism that attempts to build a socialist society through specific forms of militant labor struggle. Most people on the left consider Libertarian Socialism to encompass a broader range of anti-state socialist tendencies, including, but not limited to Anarcho-Syndicalism. There are many other types of anti-state socialist tendencies that differ from Anarcho-Syndicalism that still fall under the umbrella of Libertarian Socialism, such as Autonomous Marxism, Anarcho-Communism, Communalism.

    This is not a tautology because there are distinctions between Anarcho-Syndicalism and Libertarian Socialism. A drop of water is different from a cup of water, despite them both being water.

    I was curious about Chomsky because Anarcho-Syndicalism is kind of a dated term these days in the US and I had never heard Chomsky identify himself as such. I had heard him identify himself as a Libertarian Socialist several times but Foxi corrected my error.

    As an aside, it is pretty frustrating to be told as a Libertarian Socialist what I do and don't believe by someone that just opened up the Wikipedia page for something I've studied and put into practice for years.
     
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  20. notimp

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    Finally.. :) Soros world conspiracy peddling is populist lowballing used by despots in hungary (https://theintercept.com/2018/04/07...ys-election-smear-non-candidate-george-soros/) and - oh wait....

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-election-misinformation-distortions
    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49584157
    https://theconversation.com/how-don...pegoat-george-soros-to-win-re-election-140146

    No, nevermind, not at all brainwashed individual.. ;)

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    Jesus.

    Democratic socialism is what 2/3 of the world runs on, which is entirely compatible with free market capitalism.

    Basics.

    But I agree that the Wikipedia article is written with an emphasis on more extreme currents within the movement, for no reason, wonder how that happened...

    Thats basically what most have settled into.

    Up until "the displacement of keynsianism" according to said Wikipedia page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism#Overlap_with_social_democracy which reads like it was written by a 14 year old activist.. ;)
     
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  21. Whole lotta love

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    Again, you're confusing Social Democracy (which is in place in many parts of the world) with Democratic Socialism, which is an anti-capitalist tendency.

    Since you won't read the articles I share I'll give you a screenshot of an article titled "Democratic Socialism Isn’t Social Democracy" published in Jacobin, the most popular Democratic Socialist magazine currently in print.

    [​IMG]

    I would also quite like to hear your responses to my other arguments since you seem very knowledgeable about anti-capitalist theory.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not sure to what extent though. The idea, that democratic socialism is this 'more radical current' that developed, once keynsianism was booted, and that now has the goal of 'ending capitalism'' is quite new to me. :) As in, sure I've seen those arguments around me from time to time, but no one takes them quite seriously.

    So I'm not sure if we should go full judean peoples front vs. peoples front of judea quite yet.


    I'll read the jacobin article though, thanks.
     
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  23. Whole lotta love

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    You really should join the anarcho-syndicalist commune :lol:
     
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