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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. notimp

    notimp Well-Known Member
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    Corrupt, liberal and intellectually challenged (well lets see, partner in a law firm, first female senator of New York...) and what are the charges for corrupt again?

    Running a foundation? (Foundations do lobbying work - so thats the corruption?)
     
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  2. gregory-samba

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    Anyone that goes around hating old rich white men then advocates for an old ass always proven to fail way of Government created by old rich white men is a moron in my book.
     
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    That scientific, ey? ;)
     
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    If you think my definitions of libertarian socialism and anarcho-syndicalism are incorrect, please correct me. I don't know what social democracy has to do with that though.
     
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    Anything *ism is bad, that includes whatever flavor of socialism you're peddling.
     
  6. notimp

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    Democratic socialism is a subform of libertarian socialism, little vindictive backpedling, word picking piece of 'not wanting to learn a thing'. Might be why in the graphic I posted they were used interchangeably?

    Its not my job to educate you on your mistakes, just to point out what an absolute moronic statement you made in making this "basically the same, as an anarchic form of politicy/politics".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism


    edit: Oh, turns out we both are wrong. :)

    Libertarian socialism,[1] also referred to as anarcho-socialism,[2][3] anarchist socialism,[4] free socialism,[5] stateless socialism,[6] socialist anarchism[7] and socialist libertarianism,[8] is an anti-authoritarian, anti-statist and libertarian[9][10]political philosophy within the socialist movement which rejects the state socialistconception of socialism as a statist form where the state retains centralized control of the economy.[11]

    So your statement that "where does Chomsky refer to himself als an anarcho socialist, I thought he was an advocate of libertarian socialism" was tautological. (You absolutely didnt know what you were talking about.)

    But it also turns out that Libertarian socialism has not that much in common with democratic socialism. :)
     
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    There is still hope for America.
     
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    Among the Rasta there is a phrase "isms cause schisms".

    I am now imagining you with a typical Rasta appearance and demeanour.
    Quite amusing.
     
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    So all isms are bad? Guess that includes capitalism, patriotism, nationalism as well right?
     
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    If taken to extremes where it becomes an overriding ideology then I would go with yes.
     
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    Not an issue these days. (Anywhere in western culture - except for maybe, well who is aiding and USING (for political purposes) gun nuts, and save the babies nuts and... ;) )

    Usually attributed to religious extremism these days.

    So in your specific case: False argument.
     
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    I don't know that you particularly get to isolate it to just western cultures (whatever those might be/if that is even a particularly useful categorisation here).

    There are anarcho capitalists out there. Find them quite disturbing and lacking in an awful lot of fundamentals (the policing problem being a good start there).
    Those that pursue share price or profit or some similar metric above all else are also far from pleasant -- I like it when people do fun things, research for the sake of research, make pleasant things despite costing a bit more and generally spruce the place up.

    Hyper patriotism. The sorts of people that would claim their country can do no wrong. Seen it in a lot of places in the world. Not my idea of a good time.

    Ultra nationalism. Few of them around everywhere. Mostly a slight spin on patriotism except either want to take over the world or go full hermit.
     
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    Because of the lack of 'big political ideas' ("post democracy" concept). "Isms" basically dont matter over 'convention' (and maybe 'iterative' change) very much in western cultures these days.

    And especially not in the electoral politics cycle.

    But also my frame of reference is mostly 'western cultures' so - maybe thats why this is my - well, frame of reference. :)
     
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    Nihilism's ok I guess. I really don't care it doesn't matter.
     
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    *hrhr*
     
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    The difference was amazing between Trump and Biden today in Florida.

    Does Bill Clinton have dementia also like Joe?

    Looks like he was in the crowd. ;)

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    Can I change my vote is still trending on all search engines, not nearly as active as before but still is.
     
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    State polling with 5 days to go

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    Close Races

    Arizona: Biden +2.7
    Florida: Biden +2.2
    Georgia: Biden +1.6
    Iowa: Biden +0.4
    North Carolina: Biden +2.0

    Ohio: Trump +0.1

    Pennsylvania: Biden +5.1
    Texas: Trump +1.3
    Maine, District 2: Biden +2.7

    Not So Close Races

    Michigan: Biden +8.1
    Minnesota: Biden +8.0
    Nebraska, District 2: Biden +6.3
    Wisconsin: Biden +8.4


    If Biden wins each of the states listed under the Not So Close category, winning any one of the following states will enable him to reach 270:

    Arizona
    Florida
    Georgia
    North Carolina

    Ohio

    Pennsylvania
    Texas

    For Trump, that means he will need to win every-single-one of the above states to reach 270.

    Misc. info:
    • Extremely conservative pollster Harris Poll has Biden up +3.0 in Florida.
    • Extremely conservative pollster Harris Poll has Biden up +5.0 in Pennsylvania.
    • Moderately conservative pollster Siena College has Biden up +3.0 in North Carolina.
    • Moderately liberal pollster Quinnipac University has Biden up +5.0 in Ohio.
     
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    What's up with Oregon?

     
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