[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[crimpshrine]

 

[smf]

Trump said he wouldn't accept an illegitimate election and that was in response to Biden forming a 600+ lawyer team with the sole intention on litigating the election results if Biden looses - simply because he lost.

No, he has deployed the laywers to find how Trump is cheating before the election.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...-trump-cant-steal-this-election/#697f55b41e00

If this is worrying to Trump then you have to wonder what he is trying to hide.

Trump thinks that if he loses that it proves it's illegitimate, he has prepared the ground by constantly saying that mail in ballots are fraudulent. Even though he votes by mail in.

The explanation for why people want to believe Trump I heard recently is that because you know deep down how crooked Trump really is that you've had to suspend that and admitting it now would make you feel so bad.

The result will come down to how many of his supporters in the last election can face admitting they were wrong and how much illegal activity Trump is involved in. He has proven how dishonest and how much illegal activity he is prepared to go into, that I doubt he can cope with being honest this time.

 

[Whole lotta love]

What "ruling class"?

The capitalists and their friends in the democratic and republican parties.

You're a socialist, I was clearly joking.

Like you'd ever be at work.

I'm actually pretty good at capitalism! Let me know if you need any web design work done

 

[omgcat]

The capitalists and their friends in the democratic and republican parties.



I'm actually pretty good at capitalism! Let me know if you need any web design work done

Isn't it weird that these people keep calling others socialists and claim they don't work, but not only do they work, but they work high skill / high education jobs.

 

[KingVamp]

Isn't it weird that these people keep calling others socialists and claim they don't work, but not only do they work, but they work high skill / high education jobs.

Almost like "get a job" isn't an answer to everything. Especially since there's a possible future where most jobs, as we know it, will just be automated away anyway.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

The capitalists and their friends in the democratic and republican parties.

Hard-working individuals that do more than sit at a desk and drag pretty pictures on a file will inevitably be more successful than web designers.

I'm actually pretty good at capitalism! Let me know if you need any web design work done

If you're so good at it, why do you want to change it?

Isn't it weird that these people keep calling others socialists and claim they don't work, but not only do they work, but they work high skill / high education jobs.

It's almost like not all jobs are equal and simply having an education doesn't open every door imaginable. Benefitting the poor at the expense of the rich will only increase poverty levels. If you want to be rich, work harder and don't splurge.

 

[Whole lotta love]

Hard-working individuals that do more than sit at a desk and drag pretty pictures on a file will inevitably be more successful than web designers.

I don't think you really believe that wealth is a function of hard work. My clients pay me about $50/hour for my work, give or take. Jeff Bezos makes about 13.4 million dollars per hour. He may very well work harder than me (though I'm not sure how one measures something as amorphous as "hard work"), maybe twice as hard as me. Do you honestly believe he works 268,000 times harder than me?

If you're so good at it, why do you want to change it?

Because capitalism an inefficient and undemocratic system. I believe that people should have democratic control of all aspects of their life, including where they work. Adding profit into what would be pretty straight-forward social relations like growing food and building housing causes a lot of issues like food scarcity and homelessness. I think housing, food, and medicine can be produced and distributed without profit being involved and it would be much more efficient to do so.

It's almost like not all jobs are equal and simply having an education doesn't open every door imaginable. Benefitting the poor at the expense of the rich will only increase poverty levels. If you want to be rich, work harder and don't splurge.

Do you have any evidence to backup this claim? Generally, wealth redistribution programs under capitalism reduce poverty because poverty by definition is a function of wealth inequality. For example, Housing First is more effective and cheaper than traditional carceral methods of addressing chronic homelessness.

 

[Lacius]

Hard-working individuals that do more than sit at a desk and drag pretty pictures on a file will inevitably be more successful than web designers.

You do know that desk work can be hard work, right? Who are you, a fifteen year-old, to disparage a broad swath of careers?

And if you're measuring success, desk work can be more successful.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I don't think you really believe that wealth is a function of hard work. My clients pay me about $50/hour for my work, give or take. Jeff Bezos makes about 13.4 million dollars per hour. He may very well work harder than me (though I'm not sure how one measures something as amorphous as "hard work"), maybe twice as hard as me. Do you honestly believe he works 268,000 times harder than me?

How long has Jeff Bezos had to build up his reputation as a web designer?

Because capitalism an inefficient and undemocratic system. I believe that people should have democratic control of all aspects of their life, including where they work.

You do have control over where you work. You know how much you'll make before you get the job.

Adding profit into what would be pretty straight-forward social relations like growing food and building housing causes a lot of issues like food scarcity and homelessness. I think housing, food, and medicine can be produced and distributed without profit being involved and it would be much more efficient to do so.

Weaponry is a human right. I demand a tank, and I want you to pay for it and its ammunition.

Do you have any evidence to backup this claim? Generally, wealth redistribution programs under capitalism reduce poverty because poverty by definition is a function of wealth inequality. For example, Housing First is more effective and cheaper than traditional carceral methods of addressing chronic homelessness.

How well off are people on welfare?

 

[crimpshrine]

Did you guys see the sex tapes/pic/videos dropped by some Chinese group saying they will be continuing to release stuff every hour? So far they have released 3 things today from what I can see.

This group claims Joe is 100% controlled by the CCP.

I won't post any links but I could find it by googling "gnews org hunter"

 

[Deleted User]

Did you guys see the sex tapes/pic/videos dropped by some Chinese group saying they will be continuing to release stuff every hour? So far they have released 3 things today from what I can see.

This group claims Joe is 100% controlled by the CCP.

I won't post any links but I could find it by googling "gnews org hunter"

Not going to even bother with the website or article. it's clearly trash.
Tl;Dr
no about me page (it redirects to a policy page)
there isn't a single author of the article, or articles.doesn't list who made it, just the editors
No sources, or sources that link to themselves
No reputation since this is the first I've ever heard of them, and many haven't either
the company who owns it, is based in the USA, even though they definitely try to paint the image as if it is from china, given the Chinese text. I also can't figure out the founder since it's going under a possible alias. Which only makes it more sketchy.
Oh and said company is for profit. so...
I'll take your statement with a extreme grain of salt. burden of proof is on you to actually give me something worth my time.
If your going to state it's true. tell me why I shouldn't take it super sketch. Don't pull circular reasoning either.
I rather not have to go through a constant circle of arguments with you.

 

[crimpshrine]

Not going to even bother with the website or article. it's clearly trash.
Tl;Dr
no about me page (it redirects to a policy page)
there isn't a single author of the article, or articles.doesn't list who made it, just the editors
No sources, or sources that link to themselves
No reputation since this is the first I've ever heard of them, and many haven't either
the company who owns it, is based in the USA, even though they definitely try to paint the image as if it is from china, given the Chinese text. I also can't figure out the founder since it's going under a possible alias. Which only makes it more sketchy.
Oh and said company is for profit. so...
I'll take your statement with a extreme grain of salt. burden of proof is on you to actually give me something worth my time.
If your going to state it's true. tell me why I shouldn't take it super sketch. Don't pull circular reasoning either.
I rather not have to go through a constant circle of arguments with you.

That's where the information is dropping from my understanding and I believe being hosted at the moment. That's all I know. I don't see anywhere me making the argument about anything related to where this info is being published.

Not sure what you are going on about..

I am actually more interested in the information, because from everything I have seen so far it looks legitimate.

You can but this, but that all you want. Does not matter to me, it was not my point.

This video shows only the tip of the iceberg of what is important in the Chinese Communist Party’s Blue-Gold-Yellow (BGY) program. They take advantage of all those Western politicians, celebrities, and their families who are greedy for Chinese wealth, and threaten them by getting hold of and recording their sex and drug videos, forcing them to sell out their countries and people, and even their own national security in order to cooperate with the Chinese Communist Party’s world domination.

U.S. presidential candidate Joe Biden is 100% controlled by the Chinese Communist Party as one of the most successful political instances of the BGY program. He is also a target of the CCP’s 3F plan, which aims to “fall, fail, and fell,” to weaken, destroy and kill America!

You making some peanut gallery comments on the validity of where the info is being published and or hosted does nothing to diminish the content itself that has been released so far. So in your brain, they could have Hunter engaging in a lewd act with underage Chinese girls, but because the whois info on the domain that is sharing it does not line up, it's fake, or likely fake. Not worth considering.

It will be interesting to see what else they release. Can you imagine you guys if they had this kind of stuff on Trump. It's amazing to me how far gone some of you are.

 

[TheZander]

I've been following this thread closely since it's inception because I have been lost of who to vote for this election and GBATemp host some of the smartest people and figured they'd hash out the best proponent for president.

Do you believe you'll have a consensus come November 3? Also how possible would it be to make duplicates of a main-in ballot and envelope and randomize any serialization and try and get a couple more? Would that be considered illegal? Do they actually count the write-ins?

 

[omgcat]

I've been following this thread closely since it's inception because I have been lost of who to vote for this election and GBATemp host some of the smartest people and figured they'd hash out the best proponent for president.

Do you believe you'll have a consensus come November 3? Also how possible would it be to make duplicates of a main-in ballot and envelope and randomize any serialization and try and get a couple more? Would that be considered illegal? Do they actually count the write-ins?

all mail in ballots have a unique ID which trips a flag if it shows up multiple times. you are able to track your vote using these ID's to make sure it gets counted. many states have been mail in voting for over a decade at this point. courts all over the USA are ruling that trump's claims about mail in voter fraud have no merit. The winner will not be called on election night, nor has it ever officially been called on election night. multiple states have extended time to receive mail in ballots, and those need to be counted.

 

[chrisrlink]

Did you guys see the sex tapes/pic/videos dropped by some Chinese group saying they will be continuing to release stuff every hour? So far they have released 3 things today from what I can see.

This group claims Joe is 100% controlled by the CCP.

I won't post any links but I could find it by googling "gnews org hunter"

ever heard of deep fake porn? basicly it could be anyone and with some video editing know how can edit the video

 

[UltraSUPRA]

https://www.facebook.com/106867847808025/posts/142452204249589/

 

[crimpshrine]

ever heard of deep fake porn? basicly it could be anyone and with some video editing know how can edit the video

Yeah I don't know. This is Hunter Biden.

I get that it could have been a possibility on its own. Like if one video was leaked or a couple pictures. There is more to it though I believe.

Like the stuff the Chinese are currently releasing if we did not have the laptop. But the laptop drive that came from his computer, that seems like a completely different situation. And if you give any credence to that, then everything else fits within reason with Hunter. That dude is really messed up, and it looks like his whole family knew and it sounds like he even potentially abused a minor in the family.

The DNI John Ratcliffe confirmed this laptop is not connected to any Russian intelligence.

They have compared Hunters signature on the form from the computer to previous drivers license samples.

People on email chains from that hard drive confirmed they received those messages.

Secret Service confirmed that travel plans match places and times traveled in the emails from that hard drive.
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/2020-10-20 CEG RHJ to Secret Service (Hunter Biden Travel Records Follow-Up) .pdf

OAN confirmed yesterday that they first hand saw photos with a female Biden relative at 14 was in pictures that were inappropriate with Hunter. The OAN reporter even speaks of seeing troubling text messages regarding Hunters presence with this minor and his dad Joe. Joe just seems to ignore it from what she said.




You all know, if ANY of this type of thing was going on with ANY of us, we would already be in jail.

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https://www.facebook.com/106867847808025/posts/142452204249589/

That is F'n hilarious.

"We have put together I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American Politics" - Joe Biden

And did you catch before he made that statement he said they did it for Obama too.


Here Youtube:

 

[chrisrlink]

just read Oaan repetitively distributes fake news and is extreme right leaning if it was neutral i'd believe it more let alone many of their stories are full of holes and full of distorted truth some stories are probably pulled out of the editors ass

https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/oann.pdf
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

 

[crimpshrine]

just read Oaan repetitively distributes fake news and is extreme right leaning if it was neutral i'd believe it more let alone many of their stories are full of holes and full of distorted truth some stories are probably pulled out of the editors ass

https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/oann.pdf
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

I don't think it matters who delivers the message in this case. (Don't shoot the messenger) I don't get that argument about who is delivering the message. I understand one could be biased like I notice with liberal media that avoid reporting on news or only show a portion of a clip to install a certain feeling in someone without full context.

But in this case it is pretty cut and dry. And a pattern with Hunter was started a long time ago, this all fits in line and as I said previously contents of the drive (email) have already been confirmed to be real by 3rd parties.

There have been multiple parties that have seen the hard drive that have said there is bad stuff on it. Both in relationship to Joe and Hunter and their family in regards to some of what is shown in the pictures.

There is a pattern with Hunter that is not political in any way shape or form.

When you have someone publicly saying they saw what was on that hard drive and it is bad and it includes potentially multiple minors. Bad enough to enquire with the police, to write it off as political noise, seems dangerous.

 

[crimpshrine]

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1320167022718783489?s=20

I did not think it was legal to campaign near a polling place.

I am guessing it varies by state.

Funny though it could back fire on her, most in line did not clap or acknowledge her with glee when she was ending that.