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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. GhostLatte

    GhostLatte GBAtemp's Official Van Master™
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    Everybody is talking about Hunter Biden but what about Trump's kids :creep:
     
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    Hanafuda GBAtemp Psycho!
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    Couldn't care less about Hunter Biden. It's that his father is "the big guy" who's running the operation and gets a 10% take on the deals and half of his people's 'salary.'

    Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid.
     
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    ?
     
  4. Lacius

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    Trump's children are a prime example of what nepotism looks like. In addition, these are people who were forced to attend training on how not to defraud charitable foundations, since they were found to have done just that.
     
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    Can't forget Trump's bank account oversees either :creep:
     
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    This is one of the best arguments against capitalism. The ruling class doesn't need to work because they live off of the hard work generated by the working class.
     
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    You're a socialist, I was clearly joking.

    Like you'd ever be at work.
     
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    What "ruling class"?
     
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    LOL.......who's gonna pay for the border wall? MEXICO.

    Three years later there's the longest government shutdown in US history because Trump wanted border wall money in the budget. And after all that time negotiating with Pelosi he didn't get it that money allocated.

    So you promise something no person in there right mind thought was possible, and then you put the government out of commission for a month to fulfill that promise. And after all that time you still don't make good on the promise.

    Art of the Deal, indeed.

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    Having the secret service stay at Trump owned Hotels when on the job. Do you see no problem with that? Don't sit here and lecture me or anyone else on corruption with bullshit like that occurring.

    The American tax payer is footing the bill for hotel bills and that money is going straight to the Trump family.

    And I still want to see those tax returns. You're a god damn moron, or conservative (same thing of course), if you think after four years those tax returns are still under audit.
     
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    So when President Trump and his family travel, they can only stay in hotels owned by competitor companies? The Secret Service is going to stay wherever the President and his family go, whether it's Trump or Obama, Bush or Biden. And the taxpayers pay for this, always have. I can't find a good reason to blame Trump for wanting to stay at his own properties, and the OIG didn't either. And if someone uses a room, that's costs money, simple as that. People who work in those hotels need to be paid for what they do. It's business, not a charity. The Supreme Court just threw out the Democrats' 'emoluments' lawsuit about it, so it's a dead issue unless you just enjoy seething.
     
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    none of this would have been a problem if he divested his interests like every other president has done, and is required by the constitution.

    there are a bunch of emolument clause lawsuits working their way through the courts.

    Honestly presidents should not be allowed to own stock, or companies while in office. this has been the general idea all the way until trump got into office. he has since used the presidency to enrich himself/pay off debts owed using his status as president. but republicans only care about "the big man" when it's not their own big man.

    no one gives a fuck about this hunter Biden bullshit when the president has stuffed the WH with so much nepotism, it's almost impossible to remember it all. like imagine if Obama's children were 15 years older and they all were given positions as WH staff. the GOP would fucking explode.
     
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    Regarding "divesting his interests," i.e. selling off & out of all business interests, show me where that's required.

    (art. I, § 9, cl. 8): “[N]o Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

    (art. II, § 1, cl. 7): “The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.”

    “No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.”
     
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    There's more pages covering the same story. I already stated you may not like the source of the news, but while the source is sketchy the article is sound.

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    The fact that there's entire pages dedicated to bashing the President's response is proof enough that the wikipedia is slanted towards the left. You still didn't answer my question. It seems admitting that the Left didn't respond at all and made light of the subject and bashed Trump when he responded has no bearing on your judgement. It's a shame you're so infected with TDS you can't think normally.

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    There's a % of the population that rules over the rest of us. They are above the rich 1% and basically included the Government employees who make the rules we have to live by. They make the laws, but then don't play by the same rules the rest of us have to follow. Congress, State Officials and even the USA President fall into this small % of people. I am however glad someone on the Left is admitting they exist and claiming they do usually gets the Left to respond in about the same way they react to informing them there's other natural causes of global warming that we just can't control or that all you need to do to lose weight is watch what you eat and exercise.

    The ruling class isn't inherit to capitalism like the OP claimed, but present in monarchies, communist states and places that adopt socialism. The thing is the ruling class is pretty small under capitalism while if we were under socialism the ruling class would be much, much larger. So I'm not sure why the OP brings up something that would be thousands times worse under the system he wants to live under. Why anyone would want the Government to make their daily decision is beyond me ...
     
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    There are no articles "dedicated to bashing the President's response," and it isn't true "the Left didn't respond at all" to COVID-19.
     
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    Wrong on both counts.

    The Left's original response was to fight Trump who had formed a task force and closed borders, sourced in my accurate links of history. Biden actually called him xenophobic for reacting early while dismissing the virus as a threat. The Liberals and Democrats in Congress only reaction to the virus in Late December, January and early Feburary was to ignore it in favor of their hoax impeachment of Trump. Even in February Nancy Pelosi downplayed the threat and leftists were decrying the actions of Trump and others who tried to contain the risk by cutting it off at the source. You can keep on lying to yourself and others, but luckily we have the Internet and people remember the inaction of the Liberals and their hypocrisy of claiming Trump didn't act soon enough when they're the ones who didn't react!

    As per your claims that Wikipedia doesn't bash Trump two of the links you provided do nothing, but distort and ignore facts while attacking Trump. They are both slanted to the left and their main purpose is not to inform the public of actual history, but to distort the truth and do so by including numerous unwarranted attacks against Trump including the ones on his main "entry" on their bias site. If you attempt to create an account on Wikipedia and edit a Wiki related to politics, be it gender politics or politics in general your contributions will not be approved by the few select few who control the editing powers on most of the political content if it doesn't go along with the Liberal agenda. Wikipedia has a long history of political bias, so they may be a good source to research chicken eggs or the early history of Nintendo their politics offerings are distorting the truth.

    So to end, you still didn't answer my question. You simply questioned the validity of my question with your statement while avoiding answering it as the truth is that the Liberals and Democrats didn't act and then blamed Trump for not acting soon enough while they didn't do jack shit during the time Trump was acting.

    It's factual that the Democrats and Liberals refused to act and simply attacked Trump for acting early on so I'll ask one last time before I come to the conclusion that you're nothing, but a liberal shill in denial that doesn't deserve my attention. You do realize if your side would have not ignored the threat and helped Trump that many more lives would have possibly been saved? Where's your negative reaction to your side doing nothing, but fighting Trump who was trying to save lives? Please this time don't try to distort the facts to avoid answering a direction question by trying to modify the question.

    So here is my question for the last time; The Trump administration started reacting to the virus in late December so where does that leave your liberal buddies that were ignoring the threat and calling him nasty names for dealing with it. Surely, their lack of response warrants some sort of negative reaction or do they get a pass because they are on your side?
     
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