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For whom will/would you vote?

Poll closed Nov 4, 2020.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.1%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    52.6%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.5%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.9%
  5. Other

    7.9%
  6. 646 voter(s)
  1. Deleted User

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    Seat belt saves lives. Masks don't. Masks may save a small percentage of help but the majority of the people don't wear the masks correctly, they don't wear the right kind of mask and the loudest roosters who advocate for masks do what?.. Look at Fauci who was photographed without a mask on some baseball game sitting close to 2 other people. Look at Nancy who thinks everyone should stay at home but she gets to go do her hair. Look at Biden who puts down the mask to cough... and then puts it back on with the same hand he just coughed into.
    Masks don't save lives, that's all there is to it. And the ones who politicize masks are actually the media and the democrats. I've seen countless bullying, intimidation of people who don't wear the mask - these are the very same "open-minded people" who put rainbows on their Twitter accounts and claim to believe in science. "Believing in science" does not mean you get to bully people on social media and the Internet because they don't believe that the masks work.
    Same thing as BLM, really. Look at the statistics, look at the autopsy reports, look at the evidence. And even if there was this mythical "constitutional racial injustice"... nobody can show any proof of it. All you have to say is "say her name" - say the name of who? Of this "nice person" posing on camera with guns and a thug next to her? Don't do drugs, don't break the law and you'll be fine. She chose the opposite and paid for it. Look up the photos of Breanna Taylor and her boyfriend - very fine people posing on camera with guns. Look up the crime history of Floyd and the videos that show him dropping the drugs on the ground while lying to the cops about feeling bad. Look up the cop body-cam footage. There's no evidence of any of the "racism". The only evidence there is are the people who openly try to inject white guilt, "whiteness" (imagine someone even using the word "blackness" to describe blacks) and push this anti-white propaganda, "boycot white corporations" like BLM used to say.


    And you know what else I can show you? A woman who was being intimidated into raising her fist for BLM, the very same way Nazis intimidated people before the war. Countless rap "performers" who sing about nothing but "ho*s", drugs and crime. Sickos who riot with disgusting rap-music on speakers while fighting police in Portland. Sickos who burn streets, cars and public property over a dead drug-addict who was high even during the arrest, who lied and resisted the mentioned arrest. Sickos who are afraid of statues and boxes of cereal. Where are these "white supremacists" at? Because I sure as hell don't see any of them fighting back against any of it. The best thing media could find was that teen guy... and even his case is crystal clear - self-defense against violent mob who tried to kill him.
    Lastly, I find it ironic that it's okay to force white people to condemn white supremacists all the time, even though there's an actual hate group which was active not today and not even this year - antifa existed and caused chaos before this started. BLM was promoting their hateful marxist ideology way before any of it started, they couldn't hold a damn rally before 2020 and were seen as a joke. And what now? The media said "go" and you're going?

    You support violent anarchy over the President who constantly condemned any form of hate group, including the white supremacists.

    Oh, and if the last event with Twitter suppressing free speech isn't enough to make you see what is the evil - nothing will. Shame.
     
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  2. LumInvader

    LumInvader GBAtemp Advanced Fan
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    Just continuing to point out all the extremist websites you link us to. I'd do the same if a liberal were doing it, but you're really the only one here who believes sharing extremist links is a good idea.

    I don't read CNN or NYTimes, btw. Weak argument.
     
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    Truth is truth.

    What was stated was true.

    And it's not an argument. Me saying that. LOL

    You and words.
     
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    Masks save lives.
     
  5. LumInvader

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    How many times have I linked articles to CNN\NYTimes? How many times have you linked articles to right-wing extremist websites?

    The answers may surprise you.
     
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    Pointing out a website is biased based on some other websites grading does not change the facts listed in what I posted.

    You responding with what you did left me wondering what is your point? You don't agree?

    So I asked if you believed it was untrue. Because regardless of where it came from the information was true from what I found.

    The last question I ended it with was not an argument.

    And you saying I link to things in right-wing extremist websites changes nothing. What I posted is true.

    You have a weird way of thinking from my point of view. Let me point something out with Crimpshrine not over what he posted (because it is true) but where it came from.

    I was not posting something offensive/vulgar or extreme. And it was not untrue.

    You seem to get hung up in semantics very easily. Or you feel compelled to respond with something that really is irrelevant given the circumstances, like the post I made that you pointed out that came from some site you claim is right-wing extremist.
     
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    I wonder how this is going to go?

    Curious what Biden is going to be coached to say or do.

    Or what the moderator will do, just mute Trump the moment he goes there?

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  8. LumInvader

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    Unsurprisingly, you can't answer my question and you've danced around Lacius' rebuttal two times now. We each offered a separate critique and you haven't sufficiently answered either of us.
     
  9. crimpshrine

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    I don't see anything from lacius, I put him on ignore a awhile back. And I am about to do the same with you. You make no sense.

    Like debating with you on facts while you claim it is speculation and then you speculate constantly as fact.

    I post a news item that was true.

    You respond back with something irrelevant to that.

    So I ask you if you believe it is untrue, and you are like no it's about where it came from.

    Seriously? LOL

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    I did not see this one today.

    Seriously, that was the question they asked him?

    Wow.

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  10. LumInvader

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    From Lacius:
    Is this true?

    How Negative News Distorts Our Thinking
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...01909/how-negative-news-distorts-our-thinking

    Free your mind, crimpshrine.
     
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    As someone who's not from the US and doesn't have a big idea about the actual, current social train of thought, the fact that Biden has such a big vote intention is because he's actually seen as an alternative? Or it's simply because there's a ton of people that just don't wanna see Trump on the White House anymore?
     
  12. LumInvader

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    The credibility of a website is based on the content it provides. The credibility of an internet poster is based on the content they provide. Simply put, repeatedly linking to extremist propaganda websites shows a pattern of extreme bias and poor judgement.

    thenationalpulse.com:

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    Thanks, I already know about that. And I believe I am introspective enough to realize when I am going off on negative emotion. I am not trying to feed myself negative information to re-enforce my thoughts.

    What I think is totally ironic is exactly what you posted is likely what helps feed your mentality in my opinion. You think that article ONLY applies to others?

    Kind of like my post you responded to, to begin with. You had no issues with the TRUTH but where it came from.

    I am not hung up on labels usually. I will read information from anywhere. Although I have to admit I do avoid certain liberal news sources these days when it is clear they are avoiding showing the truth that is an instant turn off.

    I am not going to go into deeper detail but I have said several times now I did not vote for Trump in 2016 because I thought he would be a bad president. He has been a great president in my opinion. Does he have a great personality? No, but that is not a requirement for me.

    75% of the media it would seem to me gaslights people with TDS. And takes advantage of negative news to fuel the TDS.

    Why do you think there are so many walkaway stories. From what I have seen it usually starts with the Trump makes fun of physically challenged reporter smear that opens the door to them realizing they are being played.

    Anyhow I did not post any of the above to debate further on any of the points I made. Just sharing thoughts. Anything written as a question is rhetorical.
     
  14. monkeyman4412

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    holy hell, how much more footwork are you going to put in? You just dodged both @LumInvader and @Lacius points. I've been taking a break from the forms just because there is only so much retard and seeing others drink kool aid I can handle.
     
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  15. LumInvader

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    Fine, you claim it's the truth, but you never responded to Lacius's rebuttal that challenged the veracity of that website's claim. You may have him on ignore, but he's still here offering rebuttals. Arguing his point with me doesn't change my position regarding extremist websites. Watching you fall victim to extremist propaganda is a much bigger issue to me.
     
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    imagine being a trump supporter xd
     
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    Lacius's memory and yours since you seem to work as a team, is about at good as his reading skills it would seem. My last response to him was me telling him I would not be responding to him again. On his claims that Snopes confirmed Trump said to drink or inject bleach. Both were wrong, Lacius and Snopes. And like anything when you guys are faced with reality, you just pivot and shift to some other thing instead of admitting what was originally stated, "yeah that is not right".

    The Snopes article does what many of you do, misrepresent things. And try to pass it off as some type of validation for whatever you are trying to push at that moment.

    Kind of like our interaction that started yesterday night after me posting an article earlier talking about how the debate commission changed the debate topics 11th hour after the damning information had been released on Biden.

    I say

    And you say:

    I asked you a VERY specific question. IS IT UNTRUE?

    And you answer with something completely irrelevant. What I said was not untrue, but instead you try to diminish the truth with some other point. A truth is a truth. I did not link to someone saying anything extreme. And you say "Watching you fall victim to extremist propaganda is a much bigger issue to me" There was nothing extremist in any way shape or form in what I linked to.

    When I read that article, I looked it up and sure enough the last 2 presidential elections the last debate ALWAYS included foreign policy. So when the Trump campaign pointed out that what the debate commission did (remove foreign policy from the last debate at the last minute) When they originally said it would be there. A topic that is historically included, immediately after Biden is caught, that is BS. And I think again shows again a major bias towards the handling of Joe Biden. Another indicator of major double standards certain people have.
     
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    Woke up this morning and decided to do the usual rounds of the internet.
    So various articles, channels, tweets and whatever pondering things as they tend to do.

    Today we saw various calls from people that would nominally be on the left to deTrump the party and/or nation if he should fail to be elected (and presumably +4 years if he does), occasionally dipping into similar rhetoric to when various totalitarian parties fall from power.

    This is interesting. I have been to the US during his presidency. Seemed like business as usual (and I have been going there for years with plenty of friends living there, visiting a fair few places within it at that) really rather than some totalitarian hellscape so I find it dubious if those are indeed trying to claim that there does need half a population deprogramming. Probably a good reason to not pay attention to Twitter or take it seriously.
    I could be wrong though. Maybe things are truly awful with everybody more or less only scraping by, hoping the watchful eye of the jackboot does not descend upon their neck.

    The party stuff has me more curious though. Generally it is noted most political parties have a fairly big shakeup every few decades and whatever else might be said Mr Trump was the focal point for something of a shift here in the party (the whole religious thing that characterised more or less Reagan onwards, and that saw me find them incredibly distasteful during that, has become massively downplayed). There are those still under the old regime the apparently actually have a conviction (or might it be brainwashing?) and do still yearn for the previous efforts. Some call these the never trumpers, though there is also the sizeable libertarian faction too that probably wants to be considered.
    Anyway is this Trump lark then an odd blip in business as usual or representing a sea change in the way the major US right wing party operates? Will it see a restructure after this to push all the Trump types (while appointments in his administration seem to be hired and fired quicker than the time I was tasked with writing simple English there are those that will stick around because inertia). Might it be the end of the party and something else gets to reformed in its wake?
     
  19. LumInvader

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    1. The story was posted on an extremist propaganda website.
    2. But the link to the story is true.
    3. Therefore, the story wasn't posted to an extremist propaganda website.

    This is a logical fallacy.

    I never made an argument that the story was true or untrue. Lacius did. Your failure to counter his rebuttal suggests that the story itself isn't true, which means you haven't satisfied either point 1 or 2.
     
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