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I understand that we run the gamut of most topics, given the purpose of a forum. I'm not demanding we adhere strictly to gaming-only subjects. I only wanted to comment that I think the political subjects are not worth the effort of having them.

The initial discourse may possibly be constructive, but it quickly devolves into ad hominem attacks and immature hyperbole, with mods having to get involved almost every time. I think these conversations are only causing bad blood between members, instead of finding common interests between strangers.

This should be a place to have fun, contribute, discuss, and make friends. Political threads seem to run counter to GBAtemp's ethos. I think all parties would benefit by having these conversations on other sites.
 

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Yes, I have also thought about ways to make discourse more cultivated and polite. There is a diverse spectrum of conigtions and shutting people out because you can't tolerate their way of thinking is a realy unfrotunate route to take. I think it is best to have tolerance for diverse cogintions, or to just ignore them if that is not possible.

The politics section is a really elegant solution. It keeps all the mess contained in one place (more or less) and if you don't like it you are free not to go there at all. What is the argument against just ignoring the politics forum if you don't like it? Taking others expression away because you can't stop yourself from going into the politics section is a really weak position.
I think it's a really hard thing to reconcile, especially right now as society is so polarised and arguments get heated and divided into left vs. right very quickly. Yes, people should behave better, but there's a hell of a lot that people 'should' do that they don't.

Ultimately I think the responsibility lies with us as individuals to avoid them in the places they're guaranteed to be, like you say, and swat down their actions when it leaks outside.

Despite how heated things can get, I have actually been finding that GBATemp in general is way better than some other places online. Most people here manage to keep clear of the personal attacks and outright snark, at least way better than places like Reddit and Twitter.
 

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Despite how heated things can get, I have actually been finding that GBATemp in general is way better than some other places online. Most people here manage to keep clear of the personal attacks and outright snark, at least way better than places like Reddit and Twitter.
Yes, I believe the average IQ on GBAtemp is quite high, and this ensures better quality conversation.
 
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Sure, but it didn't have its own category which gave it more power than it should.
The category was designed as containment though rather than have all the ladies come over unnecessary or gentlemen drop their monocles should they have to suffer the indignity of seeing such a thing in their morning perusal of hacking content.
If anything the trivial option to exclude it and everything else being moved there as and when (though actually people seem to hit the right forum more than they manage most other things) for the terminally sensitive if anything then reduces its "power" as you put it.
 
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GBA Temp could offer an option to hide political threads from Recent Content. Unless it's already there somewhere?
 

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I think this place would be cooler if it were just like ResetEra :^)
I'm not entirely sure how converting the website into an echo chamber that primarily favors a particular side of the political spectrum is a good solution. Kinda just seems like you're replacing hate with hate.

Considering we have the Ignore button (I've already pressed it on you) I'd say you can convert it into whatever kind of echo chamber you want without having to make the rest of the site bend the knee.
 

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I'm not entirely sure how converting the website into an echo chamber that primarily favors a particular side of the political spectrum is a good solution. Kinda just seems like you're replacing hate with hate.

Considering we have the Ignore button (I've already pressed it on you) I'd say you can convert it into whatever kind of echo chamber you want without having to make the rest of the site bend the knee.
That emoticon or whatever them young'uns call has a "nose," so it was a sarcastic comment.

And even if it was serious, no one in their stable mind would want that.
 

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I'm not entirely sure how converting the website into an echo chamber that primarily favors a particular side of the political spectrum is a good solution. Kinda just seems like you're replacing hate with hate.

Considering we have the Ignore button (I've already pressed it on you) I'd say you can convert it into whatever kind of echo chamber you want without having to make the rest of the site bend the knee.
I just think it'd be funny. The seething from wannabe revolutionaries crying about "freeze peach" would be hilarious.
 

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The main reason we finally decided to add the forum in the first place so it was all in one area and isn't being posted elsewhere on the site. For the most part, it's worked as intended, we no longer see most of those shit threads outside that particular section. I do agree they pretty much always devolve into inane arguments and shitposts, but it's better than the alternative of it being elsewhere.

I'd much rather have a section dedicated to these shit threads than having them pop up in GOT or USN and the like as they had beforehand. If you don't like them, then just don't go there, simple as that. I haven't been in that section basically since it's been added, and thus I have no issues with these types of threads so long as they stay there.
The problem is with political discourse often something humans like to engage in. The eagerness to engage and give your opinion is something that social media algorithms have long since exploited and is why everything is so politically charged today.
I miss the era of GBATemp (and the internet as a whole), where your political identity and conversations were not a part of the forum. It simply did not exist here. This was a gaming and modding community and conversation was limited to that realm.

If politics really are a containment board, the staff needs to consider omitting those boards from the front page feed -- so it doesn't show up amongst the other "recently posted in" threads. I don't think I've gone a single visit to the site in the past years where there isn't some political thread lingering there.

I kind of wish the staff would actually ban some of the obviously harmful members, like those spreading White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi conspiracies and talking points. I really hate how often it seems like staff either ignore these members or even say something dismissive towards those reporting them. I am not sorry to say this, but members posting anti-LGBT+, borderline racist, and sexist comments are creating a hostile environment, the staff needs to actually deal with them.

It's all virtuous intent up until people begin gaming the system and labeling anyone they don't like the flavor of the month villainous "oppressive" demographic to get rid of them. Or, as the age old image that has somehow become more relevant since it was created:
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To be entirely frank, this is the fundamental flaw of putting politics into a community that is not politically focused. It just serves to divide an otherwise unified community.

Genuinely, I'm not all that concerned of the political belief of a person contributing to video game modding discussion or development as long as they keep it to themselves and stop plastering it all over the community/discussion.

It is not important to me whether the 60 FPS mod for Donkey Kong Country is made by a neo-confederate Nazi white supremacist nationalist or an open-border anarcho-Marxist LGBTQ+ transgender ally black panther as long as they keep that ideology off the mod patch and off the community (barring elected "containment boards", of course).

As long as the 60FPS mod doesn't give Donkey Kong a swastika-armband or gay pride flag, we're good.
 
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