Gaming Pokemon Pearl/Diamond Competitive battles.

[Anakir]

So I'm trying to pick up on my DS again. I haven't been playing it lately and I decided to get into the competitive scene of Pokemon battles. Thing is, I never battled competitively so I wonder how do I start? What are the basics I need to know? Instead of posting links to websites.. are there certain things I must remember instead? I usually like to go by tournament standards, so anything banned/overpowered I won't be using them.

 

[Centimetro]

just jump in, you learn by experience in that game

 

[InuYasha]

1.The less weaknesses on your teams the better
2.Cover your weaknesses
3.Be prepared to face alot of the same pokemon

 

[Zamo]

First things first, start memorizing as much of the standard movesets for the most commonly used pokemon as you can. This will help in both prediction and in recognising what works and what doesn't. Lists of the most popular pokemon as well as their movesets can be found here.

 

[Anakir]

3.Be prepared to face alot of the same pokemon

That's what I was gonna be afraid of lol. Its kind of sad to see not so many pokemons being used when there's so many varieties.

One questions for anyone to answer though.. did anyone test to see if evolving a pokemon at a later level affects the outcome of the stats when they reach level 100? 'cause I didn't evolve some of my pokemon just so they can learn the movesets more quickly.. but the stats might be affected..?

 

[Ryoku]

One questions for anyone to answer though.. did anyone test to see if evolving a pokemon at a later level affects the outcome of the stats when they reach level 100? 'cause I didn't evolve some of my pokemon just so they can learn the movesets more quickly.. but the stats might be affected..?

Stats are calculated by IVs, EVs, and Natures. I don't think waiting to evolve your pokemon will affect it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

[Ballistic]

Or you can be an asshole like most on Wi-Fi and do pokesav.

 

[Platinum*]

Or you can be an asshole like most on Wi-Fi and do pokesav.

Eugh. I only use pokesav for the hell of the cool pokeballs. bogus stats
like 999 for everything is so dull and bull.

I think the first step would be building your team. Not necessarily getting
the pokemon yet, but planning out your team. Yes, there are "overused,
underused, borderlines" etc. You'll see many of the same pokemon
and move sets due to Serebii's recommendations so it'd be best to build
a team within the overused section which counters the most deadly
pokemon. Have fun!

 

[War]

Lol, screw OU Pokemon. Back when I played D/P, my team had a Delibird and a Pikachu in it.

 

[dipper145]

best advice is
1. Don't do it.


"Competitive battles" hah.

 

[Hehe Moo]

O_O Delibird? My god I can't remember the last time I heard that name.... where the hell'd you catch that?

 

[Anakir]

best advice is
1. Don't do it.


"Competitive battles" hah.

My best advice:

1. Don't post if you don't have something to post about. Pokemon battles are quite competitive. You'd be surprised if you actually watch one. I've always played the method of attack with the strongest attack until you die.

QUOTE(Anakir @ Jan 24 2009, 12:22 PM) One questions for anyone to answer though.. did anyone test to see if evolving a pokemon at a later level affects the outcome of the stats when they reach level 100? 'cause I didn't evolve some of my pokemon just so they can learn the movesets more quickly.. but the stats might be affected..?

Stats are calculated by IVs, EVs, and Natures. I don't think waiting to evolve your pokemon will affect it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

Sorry, what is IVs, EVs, and Nature..? lol.

 

[Ballistic]

IVs is short for Individual Values, EVs for Effort Values, Nature is the pokemon's nature (you see it in their summary: Timid; Adamant; Jolly; Docile; etc).

Individual Values is basically the stat ranking of a pokemon once you catch it. It cannot be changed unless you catch another. It ranges from 1-31, 31 being the best. Each stat has its own IV; ATK, DEF, SPD, SP ATK, SP DEF...)

Effort Values are the hidden stat bonuses you achieve while defeating enemies. A single pokemon can get 510 EVs total, 255 max for each stat. Every 4 effort value is one more stat point into that one specific stat. Defeating certain pokemon gives EVs of a certain type and different quantities of it. This is one of the most important factors when participating in competitive battles, so be wise when distributing these hidden values! It might seem tedious, but there are a lot of things that speeds up the process, the simplest one is knowing where to train. Try this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925602/48969

Nature also affects one's stats. Normally, it weakens one stat to boost another. Although there are natures that has no affect whatsoever. Although these balanced natures sound decent at first, it isn't very good, since some people can perform better when boosting one stat for another. For the sake of argument, say Mewtwo (whose a Sp.ATK beast), usually goes with Timid or Modest nature. Both of these nature reduces ATK which isn't one of Mewtwo's strong assets.

Here's a list:
-Lonely: +Attack, -Defense
-Brave: +Attack, -Speed
-Adamant: +Attack, -Special Attack
-Naughty: +Attack, -Special Defense

-Bold: +Defense, -Attack
-Relaxed: +Defense, -Speed
-Impish: +Defense, -Special Attack
-Lax: +Defense, -Special Defense

-Timid: +Speed, -Attack
-Hasty: +Speed, -Defense
-Jolly: +Speed, -Special Attack
-Naive: +Speed, -Special Defense

-Modest: +Special Attack, -Attack
-Mild: +Special Attack, -Defense
-Quiet: +Special Attack, -Speed
-Rash: +Special Attack, -Special Defense

-Calm: +Special Defense, -Attack
-Gentle: +Special Defense, -Defense
-Sassy: +Special Defense, -Speed
-Careful: +Special Defense, -Special Attack

Copied that from gamefaqs.

Hope it helps.

 

[Ryoku]

best advice is
1. Don't do it.


"Competitive battles" hah.

My best advice:

1. Don't post if you don't have something to post about. Pokemon battles are quite competitive. You'd be surprised if you actually watch one. I've always played the method of attack with the strongest attack until you die.

QUOTE(Anakir @ Jan 24 2009, 12:22 PM) One questions for anyone to answer though.. did anyone test to see if evolving a pokemon at a later level affects the outcome of the stats when they reach level 100? 'cause I didn't evolve some of my pokemon just so they can learn the movesets more quickly.. but the stats might be affected..?

Stats are calculated by IVs, EVs, and Natures. I don't think waiting to evolve your pokemon will affect it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

Sorry, what is IVs, EVs, and Nature..? lol.

IVs are Individual Values. They range from 0-31 (in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl) and add one stat point to your stats. EVs are Effort Values. They raise your stats by 1 point for every 4 that you get in that stat. For example, you fight 4 Bidoofs, you get 4 HP EVs, thus you get one more point for HP than you would have gotten if you didn't fight the 4 Bidoofs. The max for all EVs combined is 510. You cannot exceed this number. Natures are like jolly/lonely/impish, whatever else that show up on the information window for your pokemon. These raise certain stats and decrease certain stats depending on what nature it is.

For better information go here:

Here for EVs, Here for IVs, and Here for Natures.

It might look overwhelming and complicated at first but it's really not. Just try and get the highest IVs you can (by breeding) and fight certain enemies for the EVs. Make sure to keep track of the EVs also. Pokesav would be useful in this aspect, but I don't endorse hacking pokemon. Only use it to check IVs and keep track of EVs.


Edit: Lol ballistic beat me to it.

 

[Raika]

Sorry, what is IVs, EVs, and Nature..? lol.

http://www.pokesav.org/main/ivev-guide Lol, i hate EVs, i always battle pokemon that dont have the EVs I want.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/ This shows the EVs pokemon give out. Scroll down until you see small DARK brown boxes(not the light brown ones) with "HP,Attack, Defense etc"
EDIT: Lol beaten by two people. Maybe i should start training how fast i surf for info.

 

[Anakir]

lol wow that does sound complicated, but I get it. I just gotta find the right creatures to train off of then. That was a big help and answered a lot of my upcoming questions. Thanks a lot.

Hm.. near the end of the game, I might just finish it off with Rare Candy cheat to put them all to 100 so I can get into the competitive battle more quickly. Is this suggested? I don't want to spend too much time playing the game alone. I'll only do this when the EVs of my pokemon are maxed out though.

 

[Ryoku]

lol wow that does sound complicated, but I get it. I just gotta find the right creatures to train off of then. That was a big help and answered a lot of my upcoming questions. Thanks a lot.

Hm.. near the end of the game, I might just finish it off with Rare Candy cheat to put them all to 100 so I can get into the competitive battle more quickly. Is this suggested? I don't want to spend too much time playing the game alone. I'll only do this when the EVs of my pokemon are maxed out though.

When you play over Wi-Fi, you have the option to automatically put all of your pokemon to level 100, so this is kind of pointless other than you just saying you have so-and-so pokemon at level 100. Just make sure your IVs and EVs are all in order and you'll be fine.

 

[Anakir]

Oh shit. Serious? Wow, that's really convenient for me. Then all I need to worry about are: IVs, EVs, Movesets, and Nature. Correct?

 

[Ballistic]

Movesets, weaknesses, and sometimes abilities are vital to the battles as well. Movesets and weaknesses determines a lot of capabilities that your team can or cannot do, or how well they do. Abilities play special role sometimes. Like Intimidate for example, it lowers your opponents' ATK when the monster with Intimidate ability is sent out. This is useful if your team's weakpoints are in the areas of DEF and/or the opponent strengths are ATK.

 

[InuYasha]

Lol, screw OU Pokemon. Back when I played D/P, my team had a Delibird and a Pikachu in it.

Hell I remember back in the day on netbattle(years ago) people would flip caused I liked to use Mewtwo(one of my favorites).....