1. codezer0

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    Except it was part of the game before. Masuda paywalled it this time around. Making this a mandatory dlc.

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    They want to sell you pp ups via lootbox.
     
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  2. Pickle_Rick

    Pickle_Rick I'm a pickle Morty!
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    GAME FREAK: Let's release an unfinished game while saying it would be too much work to add in everything. Then slowly sell them back all the content as DLCs. Customers now spend more than 2x the price for less content. (It's still missing stuff.) We have to have $$$$$$$$$.

    The Mystery Dungeon remaster looks cool though. Probably because it's not made by Game Freak. LUL.
     
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  3. AkiraKurusu

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    Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness (two GameCube games that utilise all the same mechanics as the GBA games, whilst adding in Shadow Pokemon and Shadow moves) were also not made by Game FrEAk - rather, by Genius Sonority. And those two games are still pretty dang enjoyable, even now; I'd gladly replay them over LGPE or Sword/Shield any day.
     
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    Agreed on the GameCube titles. I played the crap out of both of them back in the day.
     
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  5. medoli900

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    I don't get what people are whining about. Every Pokémon will be available for free. In previous version of Pokémon, a lot of Pokémon couldn't be found inside the game itself, you had to transfer them from other game, which you can also do with Pokémon Home. For the slowpoke, they never said that you need to level them up in the region. You need an item in the region, and I'd go out on a leg to say that it's very probably like the crown item for the normal Slowking evolution, where you have to trade the Pokemon with the item.

    As for the remake of Mystery Dungeon, I personally really like the new art style. The only thing I can't unsee is Pikachu's mouth looking like the red Mii lips.
     
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    Switch games are too expensive. Can't believe the prices they're charging for these meh games lmaoooo
     
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    ...Except that in every previous Pokemon game (except for LGPE), the games still had data for all 251/386/493/649/721/802/807 Pokemon without needing an update or DLC or anything. Meaning you could hack unreleased Legendaries or older Starters and Legendaries or whatever into your games, or simply trade them over from future games.
    Heck, Ruby/Sapphire completely revamped the inner mechanics (fully separating Special into Sp. Atk and Sp. Def, changing Stat Exp. to EVs, increasing IVs from 0-15 to 0-31, separating gender from stats, etc.), meaning it was impossible to transfer GB/GBC Pokemon to GBA. Yet Ruby/Sapphire still had data for Bulbasaur to Celebi, despite the majority of them being completely impossible to get at the time (FireRed/LeafGreen, Emerald, Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness provided the missing Pokemon). Compare this to Sword/Shield, where it is possible to transfer 3DS Pokemon to Switch (via Home), yet not all 807 older Pokemon were included.

    Even with the $60 DLC and accompanying update, there's still going to be ~270 Pokemon still unobtainable. Unless they surprise us, useful moves like Return and Hidden Power will still be unobtainable. Sword/Shield are still not worthy of purchase, and neither are the $60 DLC.
     
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    Again, you don't need those DLC to get those Pokémon. I don't think those two DLC are the last ones, it would be pretty dumb. I'm pretty sure they'll add the rest in due time. Really, all I see is whining for the sake of whining.
     
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    Dude... Just dump and open up the game demo and you will see its unity..
     
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    In other words, developers should take less money for using a better game engine? :unsure:
     
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    they are still the best looking pokemon games graphicaly speaking which makes gamefreak be put to shame when they cant get better graphics on a switch vs a gamecube...
     
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    I would rather have a 3rd iteration than to have to buy DLC. A 3rd iteration is a solid, complete product. DLC will die when servers die. People who want this developer to "get with the times" are clowns who enjoy wasting money for themepark experiences.

    On a side note, WE WERE ALL FUCKING PLAYED. PEOPLE WERE RIGHT ABOUT SWORD AND SHIELD BEING AN UNFINISHED GAME. Developer saying they would never have DLC. All this street theater about not realizing fans wanted all those missing pokemon. Here they were hiding all of those pokemon in DLC. Incoming Pokemon Sword and Shield, Game of the Year edition with all DLC included. DLC season passes. Disgusting. They're not getting a single fucking cent out of me.

    I'd rather pay Atlus tax for Shin Megami Tensei V because at least I know i'll be getting a complete product.
     
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    Not necessarily. Sure, a ton of trash IS made using the Unity engine, but quite a few amazing games are too.
    Cuphead, Ori and the Blind Forest, Rust, Dusk, Escape From Tarkov, Guns of Icarus, Superhot, Cities: Skyline...
    Haven't personally played most of these, but they're still quite highly praised games, so I'll take the general public's opinion on them for now, even though I disagree with them quite a lot - Breath of the Wild is pure trash with no focus compared to every Legend of Zelda game since the third one; Super Mario Odyssey and Galaxy are inferior to Super Mario 64 DS; I would've been happier if Rosalina never made another appearance after Galaxy 2 due to how useless and unnecessary she is. Anyway, I digress...

    The difference is that the free version of Unity requires the Unity logo be shown; the paid version that actual developers use allow the logo to be omitted. This dumb decision means that garbage trash scams actively advertise Unity, while quality games don't, leading to Unity having a truly awful reputation.
    Compare this to, say, CryEngine, which was popularised by Crysis. There's plenty of garbage trash scams running on CryEngine, but it's not what the engine's remembered and known for due to Crytek being smarter than Unity Tech is.
     
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    DLC is just that - downloadable content. It won't magically disappear from your console once Nintendo closes support for Switch servers, and it's not dependent on always-online connectivity either. You're probably confusing it with live service games.
     
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    nice twist of words......
     
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    better than omega sword/shield, eh? as long as the dlc is substantial, I'm fine with it. gives the programmers some money flow while development of the next game takes place. as long as it adds 5 or so hours of gameplay per expansion, minimal, I'll consider it worth it.
     
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    So now we know why they gimped the pokedex like that.
    ...so they can sell it back to us as DLC.
    *slowclap* Well done Pokemon Company, very well done indeed.
    You shoved that rusty piece of pipe up our ass quite expertly.
     
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    So they cut Pokemon from the final game so they could sell them back to you down the line for extra $$$???

    Man, Nintendo's become just as scummy as EA and Ubisoft...
     
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    Pokemon is dead to me.

    You know, a second version would have been better. I could at least buy that used to punish them.
     
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