Back in September of this year, news broke out about Nintendo / Pokemon Company would sue the creators of Palworld, PocketPair, for an alleged patent infringement from PocketPair's part.

The details about said lawsuit were scarce, other than the companies suing PocketPair, and it wasn't until today, November 8th, 2024, that PocketPair themselves released a short but detailed report about the current state of the lawsuit, and which specific patents from Nintendo and The Pokemon Company were the alleged infringed ones when it came to Palworld.

The alleged infringed patents from the Pokemon Company are the following:

• Patent No. 7545191
  [Patent application date: July 30, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: August 27, 2024]
  
  
• Patent No. 7493117
  [Patent application date: February 26, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: May 22, 2024]
  
  
• Patent No. 7528390
  [Patent application date: March 5, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: July 26, 2024]

To summarize them, basically it all boils down to aiming and sighting directions in a virtual space, and riding objects in ground and aerial spaces.
According to PocketPair, both Nintendo and the Pokemon Company are seeking 5 million yen as well as late payment damages to each company, meaning 5 million to Nintendo and another 5 million to Pokemon Co. (plus the late payment damages).

As a closing statement, PocketPair assured that they "will continue to assert their position in this case":

We will continue to assert our position in this case through future legal proceedings.

Please note that we will refrain from responding individually to inquiries regarding this case. If any matters arise that require public notice, we will announce them on our website, etc.

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[choolisfound]

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Back in September of this year, news broke out about Nintendo / Pokemon Company would sue the creators of Palworld, PocketPair, for an alleged patent infringement from PocketPair's part.

The details about said lawsuit were scarce, other than the companies suing PocketPair, and it wasn't until today, November 8th, 2024, that PocketPair themselves released a short but detailed report about the current state of the lawsuit, and which specific patents from Nintendo and The Pokemon Company were the alleged infringed ones when it came to Palworld.

The alleged infringed patents from the Pokemon Company are the following:

• Patent No. 7545191
  [Patent application date: July 30, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: August 27, 2024]
  
  
• Patent No. 7493117
  [Patent application date: February 26, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: May 22, 2024]
  
  
• Patent No. 7528390
  [Patent application date: March 5, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: July 26, 2024]

To summarize them, basically it all boils down to aiming and sighting directions in a virtual space, and riding objects in ground and aerial spaces.
According to PocketPair, both Nintendo and the Pokemon Company are seeking 5 million yen as well as late payment damages to each company, meaning 5 million to Nintendo and another 5 million to Pokemon Co. (plus the late payment damages).

As a closing statement, PocketPair assured that they "will continue to assert their position in this case":



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I love how I could name a guy in a game "Mario" and then that would probably be good enough to get a lawsuit from Nintendo.

 

[Dakota_Mars]

To be honest, the only theory I have come up with I that these patients run deeper than we think and it's not about now it's about a future Nintendo game. There are alot of other similar games using similar mechanics and are getting away with it. I think Pal world did things slightly differently and got there game out before Nintendo got that pokemon legends z-a out (it doesn't even have a trailer) and the pokemon game is going to be similar to pal world and Nintendo had no patients for it. Quickly applied for them, so when pokemon is revealed and released they won't get sued at any point by pal world. I think this is Nintendo covering there own ass and that's why the patients are confusing just a theory though

 

[Crystal_tofu]

This video (by an actual lawyer) explains it pretty well, I think:
The summary is that most likely Nintendo sees Palworld as Sony's attack on their Pokemon franchise, and patent law is the best option available to them to strike back in response to that. It also explains why Nintendo almost never sues for patent infringement, even though they have thousands of patents that are almost continuously being infringed upon. For exact details, watch the video I guess

i've learned to take this guys vids with a grain of salt as when he was called out for defending the completionist and getting on to the people who interviewed jirard i was never sure at that point if he knew what he was talking about in any of his other videos.

 

[mousefitzgerald]

To be honest, the only theory I have come up with I that these patients run deeper than we think and it's not about now it's about a future Nintendo game. There are alot of other similar games using similar mechanics and are getting away with it. I think Pal world did things slightly differently and got there game out before Nintendo got that pokemon legends z-a out (it doesn't even have a trailer) and the pokemon game is going to be similar to pal world and Nintendo had no patients for it. Quickly applied for them, so when pokemon is revealed and released they won't get sued at any point by pal world. I think this is Nintendo covering there own ass and that's why the patients are confusing just a theory though

A game with characters moving around and aiming projectiles while moving? That would be REVOLUTIONARY!

 

[gamefan128]

Those are probably the worst software patents I've ever heard of. That first one is about 99.9% of all video games and the second is like at least 50%. Nintendo really is being pretty transparent about how spiteful their lawsuit is.

Yup.
They should make a law against patenting game mechanics.

 

[dankonion]

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Back in September of this year, news broke out about Nintendo / Pokemon Company would sue the creators of Palworld, PocketPair, for an alleged patent infringement from PocketPair's part.

The details about said lawsuit were scarce, other than the companies suing PocketPair, and it wasn't until today, November 8th, 2024, that PocketPair themselves released a short but detailed report about the current state of the lawsuit, and which specific patents from Nintendo and The Pokemon Company were the alleged infringed ones when it came to Palworld.

The alleged infringed patents from the Pokemon Company are the following:

• Patent No. 7545191
  [Patent application date: July 30, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: August 27, 2024]
  
  
• Patent No. 7493117
  [Patent application date: February 26, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: May 22, 2024]
  
  
• Patent No. 7528390
  [Patent application date: March 5, 2024]
  [Patent registration date: July 26, 2024]

To summarize them, basically it all boils down to aiming and sighting directions in a virtual space, and riding objects in ground and aerial spaces.
According to PocketPair, both Nintendo and the Pokemon Company are seeking 5 million yen as well as late payment damages to each company, meaning 5 million to Nintendo and another 5 million to Pokemon Co. (plus the late payment damages).

As a closing statement, PocketPair assured that they "will continue to assert their position in this case":



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Nintendo just loves suing everyone huh

 

[Hippocampus_Hamster]

What really triggers my BS alarm is that Nintendo filed all these patents this year. For a series that has been going on for nearly three decades. Which means they likely saw what was coming, and decided to throw up the bullshit barriers and then cry foul at the soonest opportunity. This just smacks of the usual petty crap that Nintendo loves to use.

Also, 10m yen total? I'm pretty sure Palworld has made more than that in the past couple of months. And how are they going to calculate "late payment damages"? Unless Nintendo is intending to sue every other game in existence, including many driving games and flight sims, they're really setting themselves up for failure with such broad strokes. Really wish there was a way to stonewall clearly-nonsense patents. Maybe force fillers to prove that their concept is an original idea and not already in use.

i've learned to take this guys vids with a grain of salt as when he was called out for defending the completionist and getting on to the people who interviewed jirard i was never sure at that point if he knew what he was talking about in any of his other videos.

I do think he has a point in the video about how Nintendo is pattern-recognizing what they did with Game Freak in the way that Sony is backing Pocket Pair.

Additionally, many, many Pokemon-like games (excluding fan games, of course - which Nintendo will absolutely squash without hesitation) have come out and not been targeted by Nintendo. Yet the biggest push by one being backed by Sony suddenly gets Big N to put their foot down?

Its very suspicious. This whole lawsuit stinks of bad blood, and I don't see it being resolved anytime soon.