PlayStation 4 lifetime sales reach 96.8 million, closing in on the Wii's massive 101.6 million sold

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  2. Zhongtiao1

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    I guess it is better known as the Ataribox. It will release in December.
     
  3. p1ngpong

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    A fine console with a fine library well deserves those sales.

    Miles better than the hunk of trash that was the Wii with its trash library that isn't even worth £10 used now.
     
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  4. DANTENDO

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    Someone who has never used a wii just with the galaxy games and the console hardly anyone would complain spending 40 quid
     
  5. codezer0

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    I read the headline and I just think "what the fuck, how?"
    How many of those purchases are basically people replacing units that failed (that of course, Sony won't warranty)?
    Sony made no attempt at all to handle backward compatibility for any of the previous systems to even warrant buying this one.
    Many during its launch were buying it as an over-glorified Netflix box.
    Even as bad as the shoulder buttons were on the stock PS3 controller design, to me the PS4 controller feels even worse when I did get some playtime with it.
    Haven't really liked any of the PS4 exclusives; granted that part is preference, but it's almost time for the PS5 and I still can't find anything that is only on PS4 that I would actually want to play.
    Sony is being infamously heavy-handed with how it treats publishers and its users, trying to bar cross play until there's people literally battering their offices down with pitchforks and torches demanding it.
    Never mind the stupid mandate internally that "no pro aware games can run faster than the vanilla unit", so those games I did care about that were Pro-aware actually ran worse on the higher end model.

    Everything about Sony's business decisions compared to the Xbox One and WiiU (and Switch) should have had it no higher than second place. The fact that they keep getting away with it, is insulting to me. It doesn't make sense.
     
  6. DANTENDO

    DANTENDO I Won year sub Edge mag 1996 hot topic digitiser

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    You work for Microsoft or nintendo
     
  7. codezer0

    codezer0 Gaming keeps me sane

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    Nope. Just sick and fed up, with Sony's arrogance and petty business maneuvers.

    I probably would have had a more impressive library, or several high end PC's, from the money I had to waste replacing PlayStation consoles and portables. And then they chose to break what limits of patience I had by banning my account, even when I never played online, ever.

    Even if they hadn't done that, as I said, there isn't enough of their own exclusives to warrant even buying a system second-hand; let alone a new one, to have to replace it five or six times until I get one that works.

    I'm way past done with Sony's (lack of) hardware reliability. Even more fed up with how they go out of their way to litigate and scare off suppliers to try and repair their systems.
     
  8. Ryccardo

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    Did they?
    While didn't keep up with discussions of boring artificially crippled PCs, I thought the PS4 was one of the few Sony products since the 90s with no flagrant reliability issues - unlike some models of: the PS1, the PS2, the PS3, Trinitrons with Shindengen PWM chips, 2007 Vaios with nvidia graphics, the (defective by design, as the campaign says) 2005 DRM music CDs, the Xperia Go waterproofing, ...
     
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  9. codezer0

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    The contract terms between Sony and Foxconn (who actually did make the PS4's for them), were especially terrible, with many candidly professing to spitting in systems in the assembly line because it was that worthless to them. Nevermind it was the especially horrible conditions for the plant making these that got attempted suicide rates high enough not for Foxconn to invest in fitting counsel or mental health support for their workers, but to basically pay for glorified nets to catch would-be attempts to fling themselves off the building.

    Considering the high talks of "conflict resources" going on at the time, and Sony's silence comes off not as ignorance, but complicity in creating the hell they had to endure.
     
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  10. Hielkenator2

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    Great and all, but it's also a fact that the NINTENDO SWITCH is nearing the PS4's LIFETEIME SALES in JAPAN.
    All achieved in a mere 2 years lol! The linear graph prognose is probably very wrong as Nintendo is gearing up to introduce the Nintendo Switch to the white market in CHINA.
     
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  11. Bladexdsl

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    only reason the wii was so popular was for 2 reasons
    1. families
    2. hacked early

    if it wasn't for the wiikey and usb loader i would have sold my wii a long time ago. thanks to that i never had to waste a cent on them terrible games i could just download and delete. out of the whole wiis library there is literally under 10 times worth playing on it most 1st party (sound familiar?) :P
     
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  12. smf

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    Some people bought two wii's, how is it not valid to compare how many units were sold?
     
  13. mrgone

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    two wii's are 2 wii's. but a ps4 pro and a ps4 are 2 different devices, not just optimized hardware.
     
  14. DutchyDutch

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    To the people in the thread:
    Don't get me wrong but directly comparing thel sales between the Switch and PS4 is unfair. Don't forget that not only has the PS4 been around for much longer, it has also been sold at a loss for a long time. The Switch, on the other hand isn't. Even if the PS4 sold more, Nintendo could have earned more in the same period.

    This is also worldwide. In Japan, the PS4 is selling worse on average. Combine that with the fact that it's being sold at a loss and the difference is bigger.

    Plus, don't forget that the PS4 had the Pro. Tons of people who already owned a PS4 bought the Pro as an upgrade. That still counts towards an entirely new sale even though the install base itself hasn't grown.

    Also, most of the profits from a console come from its games. While Sony does have a number of good selling first party titles, Nintendo still probably has the upper hand in this section. They have multipile games that sold over 10 million and they're still selling. Not only that but their games almost never drop in price so the profit per game is also more.


    Console sales aren't everything. I'm probably gonna be called a Nintendo fanboy even though I own every Playstation system and play on them all the time : )
     
  15. FAST6191

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    Given most people here probably don't care all that much about the profits of Japanese companies/divisions thereof do we care about potential earnings here?

    Did that many people upgrade models of PS4? I only have anecdotes at this point but for the most part nobody I met seemed to care that much -- it was not like a DS to DS lite screen change or anything like that. Most of the big tech sites generally said "eh" as well.

    Back to the first thing most around here probably care what devs will think when they look out at the world and potential options for their game, size up install bases, attach rates for games and go from there (ease of dev, tools available and whatever else).
     
  16. DutchyDutch

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    I feel like people are trying to imply that sales directly correlate to success which doesn't always have to be true. Again we can't say that the PS4 is "more succesful" or doing better than the Switch (what people are saying) because higher sales don't necessarily mean that.

    I feel like things like big tech sites don't represent the general public all too well. For example, everybody on the internet loves to shit on FIFA and COD yet they still remain one of the best selling video game franchises. We're not really sure about the Pro's numbers but I do think it makes at least somewhat of a difference.
     
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