People with N3DS/N3DSXL + sysUpdater READ THIS before downgrading!

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  1. Duskie
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    ATTENTION N3DS(XL) USERS!

    Please don't attempt to downgrade to 9.2 (at least) with the unstable build of sysUpdater, especially if you're even a little unsure about what you are doing.
    Downgrading N3DS(XL) is a bit different than downgrading O3DS(XL), you should do additional steps before downgrading your N3DS(XL) if you really want to make sure it will downgrade successfully.
    If you already opened the sysUpdater,
    it clearly says
    WITH RED TEXT to not attempt
    downgrading on N3DS(XL) because they
    will most probably brick,
    as they are not fully tested with and are not made for the sysUpdater version.


    edit:

    It is possible to downgrade them successfully, but currently most of the consoles that got bricked during the downgrade process have been New 3DS and New 3DS XL - consoles, so please take note that the success rate of N3DS(XL) downgrading successfully
    is way lower than the O3DS(XL)'s success rate.

    If you are on a N3DS(XL) and you downgraded successfully, lucky you, but you should avoid downgrading again, since it's kind of a lottery win for you.



    I myself changed my mind a few times about downgrading my O3DS (10.3) to 9.2 (I had problems with HBL on 9.2 and went back to 10.3 so I was able to access HBL),
    but then I downgraded back to 9.2 and got HBL working with browserhax,
    although the old eshop downloader nor the eshop access worked on HBL
    (I have no idea why) even though I used menuhax.... So I can't currently install ironfall/ironhax anymore..
    But it worked for me everytime I downgraded, maybe I was just lucky with my Old 3DS XL

    But there are plenty of people complaining about bricking their New 3DS (XL) consoles while attempting to downgrade,
    maybe check the warnings next time you attempt to modify your expensive console
     
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  2. lomejor18

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    how about FBI method on a N3DS(XL)?
    it's not working for me but still trying...
     
  3. jackb994

    jackb994 Self-Proclaimed Gamer

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    I downgraded perfectly on n3ds Europe to 9.2 so what's the problem
     
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  5. gieve

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    Same, downgraded a n3ds on 10.1 E, first time, installed emunand injected FBI and it's working flawlessly with rxtools.

    Just make sure you have the right 9.2 cias for your region. Most who bricked used o3ds files.
     
  6. Duskie
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    Duskie Advanced Member

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    1. Make sure you are installing a legit .cia (most of them are found at that ISO site)
    2. Correct version of FBI

    and what's wrong with it? Is it not loading? Try to open it on menuhax a few times, worked for me
    If you can't install the .cia file, then it's not probably a legit .cia file, so try another one.
    (if you are talking about the FBI that works above 9.3)

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    Yes, also that. My friend tried to downgrade his N3DS with the correct files downloaded from that iso site, but he got stuck on the ''retrying in 10 seconds'' thingy and tried to reboot because it was stuck on it for at least 10 minutes and the 3ds was stuck on a black screen
     
  7. lomejor18

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    I got the legit cia on that site and got confirmation that other users installed correctly...

    i'm using menuhax and almost never got "DONE" on the black srceen, and when i get "DONE", it freeze :(
    today is the 3th day trying...

    Do you know who develop FBI? i wish they update that :P
     
  8. bakurage

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    I waiting a tool for downgrad my N3DS 10.3-28eu or it's safe now ?
     
  9. vedekandy

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    I may have got lucky - I have a New 3DS XL and managed to downgrade it from 10.3 after a failed attempt to downgrade from 9.5. One recovery boot/upgrade to 10.3 and sysUpdater later and it *seems* to be working fine on 9.2 - can only hope :D

    There's a good chance some of the people who bricked their consoles used the wrong CIAs or didn't check the MD5/SHA-1 of them, or had an issue copying files which got corrupted, or had a faulty SD card ... there's a LOT of variables, unfortunately, which increases the chances of something going tits-up.
     
  10. bkifft

    bkifft avowed Cuthwaldian

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    Define "safe". For me safe means "100% reliable", therefore it's unsafe as long as you don't have a NAND backup of the device.
     
  11. bakurage

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    Ok, i'm wait for a 100% safe.

    If she's bricked, not any chance to save it ?
     
  12. bkifft

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    You can always fix these bricks by restoring your NAND backup for which you need a hardmod (that you'd need to do a backup of your updated 3DS anyways).

    Besides that in many reported brick cases they were able to recover using recovery mode (aka doing an update via online nintendo servers by holding a button combination on powerup), but in some cases even the tool responsible for this recovery mode was broken. It seems (but is not sure yet) that the recovery mode will only get f'ed up when using the wrong cias (e.g. o3ds for n3ds).

    tl;dr: the chance for unrescueable brick (without hardmod) is >0% (edit: thus, from my point of view, it's not safe)
     
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  13. Juiss

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    It will never be 100% safe without a hardmod.

    To the OP, you're wrong, most people downgraded just fine. The majority of the bricks (on both O3DS and N3DS) are because of user error (people mostly using the wrong files or shutting down when they shouldn't).
    Don't take my word for it but I'm pretty sure it's as stable and reliable as it can get(for the downgrade itself).
     
  14. Ratatapa

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    Or bad RNG like in my case

    I have the Julian Sysupdater, and got the good CIA files for 9.2U full N3ds (checked with MD5)
    All files pasted at the good spot.

    My issued is when I start sysupdater I either get a Black Screen or when I can press Y for downgrade sometime about failed CIA files

    happens with both Iron and menuhax
     
  15. Juiss

    Juiss GBAtemp Regular

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    Pardon?
     
  16. Ratatapa

    Ratatapa GBAtemp Fan

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    pardon what?
     
  17. Juiss

    Juiss GBAtemp Regular

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    Me, as in, can you please say that again. I don't understand what you're trying to say.
     
  18. Ratatapa

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    I'll try to get a screenshot

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    omg was able to start the installer now, crosses fingers

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    Think i'm done for

    [​IMG]

    Been more thne 10 seconds and it'S not rebooting byt itself
     
  19. Juiss

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    Reboot manually and pray (you should be fine)

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    Did it work?
     
  20. RhythmCat

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    I say a little prayer for you, lol.