1. Bladexdsl

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    the ouya is shit period even the shield is better than it. android is supposed to remain as a portable device it has no purpose being a damn console! :rofl2:
     
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    There really should be a source in the OP. Here's one. Here's another. In any case: not mentioning anything is just commercialising as well as misleading. Though I'm not sure to what degree. Not to sound condescending, but...does the ouya HAVE any games that are over 30 bucks? :unsure:

    ...and should that be 30 € or 30$? That seems to depend on the source as well. :unsure:

    But while I could join the line and make fun of it, I'm actually more concerned about the health of the software. Those PSN giveaways work because developers agree to it. And they do it because they know their game sells pretty much only in the first couple weeks since release. After that, it needs DLC or discount promotions to keep being in the spotlight. This deal not only gives way too much competition (how are you going to stand out when an ouya player can play 800 other ones for the price of free?) but being able to get paid for your work is even LESS likely now (everyone with such a pass will be able to play your full game for free RIGHT FROM RELEASE DATE). I sort of fear developers will just up their asking price to over 30 (if not with a permanent discount), just to get around that model.
     
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    People praise Amazon and Madcatz for doing the same thing? What? Where? Also, the Ouya sucks. That isn't a fact so much as a widely held opinion backed by other opinions to the degree that it might as well be fact for what people believe about the Ouya at this point. Now, cleaving through the crud, the following points are undeniable (in my humble opinion, anyways):

    - It runs Android OS, an OS that was made for handheld devices with touchscreen functionality, and that benefits the most on devices such as the aforementioned. A home console is the exact opposite platform that Android was meant to exist on.
    - The majority of its games (read: 99% of its games) can be found on any Android device, and of those, 95% of them work best as short burst of fun phone games, not "sit down on the couch for a major gaming session" kind of games. There are the exceptions, that 5% of the overall 99%, but that's only really ports of console releases over a decade old that work to varying degrees of goodness (from, say, FF VI Android on the low end to GTA: SA on the high end).
    - The hardware Android is made to run on evolves quickly, at this point probably some of the fastest evolving hardware in common use. That means Ouya becomes outdated far faster than any desktop computer, which means a substantial drop in value faster than your average piece of non-phone tech. That creates problems of resell value for those interested in such a thing, which is more people than you might think. From collectors to people who just get bored after while and decide to ditch their hardware, they like to know that they can get something back for it after more than three months have gone by.

    So in what way is this desirable to the average gamer? It isn't. Not at all. It appeals to only a very, very specific group of people, and you can't exactly fault the majority for seeing the flaws so easily. Android home consoles are a bad idea. A really bad idea. If there was substantially more dedicated support for them, maybe they wouldn't be so terrible, but they don't have that support that makes them desirable. Nobody is making it a point to develop games built around Android home consoles in a consistent fashion that shows both progress and desirability. Android developers are focused on the overwhelming number of Android phones and tablets, and rightfully so, as that's where Android thrives and unless something changes, that is where it should remain.
     
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    This. Also a simple google search will enable anyone to get these 2,000 bucks-worth of games for freeziez.
     
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    I would pay $60 for LightyKD to never mention the OUYA again.
     
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    No.. no thanks.

    I'll stick to Nintendo and PlayStation.
     
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    A well thought out argument sir. However, that Android part of the argument isn't what people should be focusing on. All home console hardware becomes mid-range very quickly, regardless of the OS it uses. Hardware is only considered outdated if there is something ready to replace it. People generally don't 'upgrade' from OUYA to MOJO (which does indeed have better specs), they simple choose one or the other. Phones become outdated because the manufacturers simple want to sell new hardware, so create a new version of their older phones. OUYA, MOJO Amazon thingy and that rumoured Google device aren't about selling phones, they're about playing games on your TV, just like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft but people only see that they run Android and can only be used to run Flappy Bird or Cut the Rope.
     
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    howver, if OUYA was some kind of android device with upgradeable hardware.... just like a desktop pc in wich you can buy a new GPU, cpu, ram etc
    well... this was something "revolutionary" and maybe i would think about getting it...
     
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    -picks up nexus 10 and walks out laughing-
     
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    What about Google's Project Ara?
     
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    If the highlight of your showcase is Broken Age then you've got a serious problem.
     
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    Some rant. Sorry, but I'll have to disagree with most everything here.

    -some creative way to say you don't like the ouya. However, it isn't saying all that much. That "widely held opinion" is just in this forum...and probably other gaming forums as well. It's certainly technically inferior to other consoles, but it clearly isn't trying to compete with them. and most of these opinions come from people who haven't even gamed on one, so it's not exactly a fair comparison.
    -I've heard ouya interface lacking important features, but "android was made for handheld devices" isn't one of them. It's a free, open source and decent OS. Not using it would be stupid. Besides...windows wasn't originally written for gaming consoles either, but it's still powering that xbone thingy. Does that at times request people to plug in keyboard or mouse? :rolleyes:
    -with the previous point: the fact that they're available on android means they can be ported easily. Strange how you convert an extra reason to use an already existing OS somehow in an argument against the ouya.
    -as spinal_cord mentions: the reason the hardware evolves quickly is because hardware vendors push those things IN A SEPARATE MARKET pretty heavily. But I partially agree on you here. Thus far, nobody else on the phone market is really considering console games yet (though there are more than a few rumours going round). It won't be long until a phone with better specs, an ouya-app, a micro-USB to HDMI-cable and a ouya controller becomes cheaper than the ouya itself.

    I'd also like to point out that there are televisions out there also running android. Since they are not touchscreen based either (at least...I assume so. ;) )...are they "a really bad idea" as well?


    Put it on my paypal account and I'll explain how to put him on your ignore-list. ;)
     
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    I wonder how the reaction to this would have been back when everyone hyped the fuck out of this piece of shit android emulator, or when it was frowned upon to hate on it.
     
  14. LightyKD

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    The hate is strong on this room. A prime example of why most gamers suck. I just love the hypocracy and many of you were gamers of the Classic Wii, defending your poor little console while PS/360 gamers made every effort to lay a duce on it. I'm not going to stop posting OUYA stories. You know why? Because you people need to grow the fuck up! OUYA is here to stay. There's no ignoring it or other devices like it. Welcome to the 21st century. Things change and the new wave of gaming devices are here. Either join in or walk away but don't waste your time bitching about something other people like when you could clearly be using that is me to play a game that you like and make yourself happy. Life is too damn short people. Dissing another piece of silicon, metal and plastic does not make your favorite mash of silicon, metal and plastic any better.
     
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    Ok, first of all, bringing the Wii into this is completely irrelevant. Unlike the Ouya, it's an actual gaming console supported by an actual gaming company that develops and had business relationships with actual game publishers. There were various reasons to own a Wii, for the Nin10doh exclusives, for the third party motion games, all the casual-based shovelware. If you didn't notice, the Wii outsold the PS3/360 almost 2-fold in the end. Are the PS3/360 great gaming consoles? Yes. Did they "shit" on the Wii in terms of success? Hardly.

    The Ouya is some piece of junk Android console with 0 exclusive titles, 0 incentive to even purchase one, and is already completely outdated(mid-range tablets shit on it spec-wise). There's no "new wave" of gaming devices, it's still the same old AAA companies making actual gaming consoles with shitty Chinese/small dev teams making the crap we all laugh at. You say "there's no ignoring it", but it seems a giant majority are. The best selling game on the Ouya, outselling all the rest, was Towerfall at 7,000 sales. That isn't shit. Even the Vita, which is currently lagging behind in terms of sales, shits on the Ouya 10 fold. I have no idea where you're getting all these grand visions of the Ouya master race, because there is none, there never was, and there never will be.
     
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    Thanks Lighty I needed a laugh and that probably counts as one of the best delusional rants I have read on the temp in a while. Keep the OUYA stories coming bro so we can all carry on laughing at you, while we game on real consoles and you throw away $60 on your annual subscription to nothing.
     
  17. LightyKD

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    I love how people here say that OUYA isn't a game console. Its a box, connected to a TV that plays video games... Um... What is that again? Operating systems have nothing to do with it. OUYA is as much of a gaming console as Wii. BTW I enjoy all of this. You people are just proving why a lot of people can't stand gamers. I'll sit here and enjoy my OUYA and Wii U while you people waste your time crying about a device many of you claim to not care about.
     
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    Oh we're just dissing it because it's a piece of shit.

    It was made by influential names in the gaming industry through Kickstarter. Which means either A) they could make unfortunate shits pay for their development costs or B) the idea was too stupid to get picked up by anyone.

    So they promised us a $100 Android box that could play games and do Netflix and shit. Meanwhile if you wanted to do that whole Netflix-Hulu Plus-whatever shit, you could buy a Roku for half the price or use a gaming console which most households have anyway.

    As for the games, 90% of them are shit, they get a few notable Android titles but nothing exclusive or special. Anyone with an Android phone or tablet can play them and most of them are designed for on-the-go play anyway. Do you really want to sit down at your big TV and play Canabalt? I didn't think so either.

    Remember when they said every game was going to be free? Well looks like that's a sack of shit anyway.

    Then they said they'll be releasing a new Ouya every year with better specs you have to buy again. So you're paying $100 a year to keep up to date, they're basically taking the Apple route.

    The Ouya was a bad idea and a horrific execution. If you want to pay $60 a month for a console that was dead on arrival so you can play mediocre "indie hidden gems" then go ahead. But we'll all be here to have a fucking giggle every time you have a delusional rant about how great the Ouya is or the eventual news article stating "The Ouya is officially dead".

    Just know you're getting fleeced so hard and enjoying it too.
     
  19. Depravo

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    To be honest I think most of the Ouya derision in your threads is caused by your insistence that Ouya is a major player in the console/video game arena. It really isn't. It's a quirky little device with limited market appeal. Interesting to those geeky enough to find such things interesting but mostly irrelevant to everyone else.

    Imagine a man knocking on the door of the Louvre demanding that his 3 year old child's crude drawing of a stick man be displayed next to the Mona Lisa... That's all your Ouya threads that is.
     
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    I liked the Ouya when it was first announced, since then though the hardware has made some massive leaps.

    Spending just a little more now can get you a much better Android machine for your TV.

    I like the Minix Neo X7 myself but I really am waiting for the new Rockchip rk3288 based stuff to start hitting. That's when the things will get really interesting!
     
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